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	<description>what is the vertiginous chapati saying to me?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Towards 1971 III: A Few Good Pakistani Men by Sarmila Bose: Responses</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarmila Bose: Responses</dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on Towards 1971 II: The Making of a Tragedy by Towards 1971 III: A Few Good Pakistani Men</title>
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		<dc:creator>Towards 1971 III: A Few Good Pakistani Men</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cultural and linguistic influence…they have all the inhibitions of downtrodden races”6), to Jinnah’s view of the Bangla Language Movement being a plan to break up Pakistan and absorb it back into the [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Towards 1971 II: The Making of a Tragedy by Anurag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anurag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent reading, but one omission that I can&#039;t help pointing out is why this un-natural timeline to be started post independence?  Don&#039;t you think the article needs to address the definition of Indian Muslim identity without its Indian-ness (not India as a political country but India as an idea or as in Hindustani)? I can understand a need to control/say in their destiny in all sphere of life but why this urges to link their history and thus social/cultural mores in Arabia/Central Asia?

Why was not there an opposition to this strange concept (only one known to me is from religious parties who were better aware maybe due their non-feudal background)?  And now comes the million dollar question, why do always present this conflict as a dichotomy between West-East , Urdu-Bangla, Punjabi-Bengali but do not discuss this as class conflict (no am not a Marxist but can’t ignore the elephant in the room!). 

Isn’t that a fundamental difference between Pakistan and Bangladesh (India too!) that on one side power started devolving into masses (what with non-feudal leaders like Maulana Bhashani, Sheikh Mujib) while Punjab has been a laggard on this regard. The only self made leaders who have risen from bottom and did not have advantage of social/political/economic hierarchy are right-wing religious ones. Why isn’t there a progressive self made leader like elsewhere.
Hope to see some answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent reading, but one omission that I can&#8217;t help pointing out is why this un-natural timeline to be started post independence?  Don&#8217;t you think the article needs to address the definition of Indian Muslim identity without its Indian-ness (not India as a political country but India as an idea or as in Hindustani)? I can understand a need to control/say in their destiny in all sphere of life but why this urges to link their history and thus social/cultural mores in Arabia/Central Asia?</p>
<p>Why was not there an opposition to this strange concept (only one known to me is from religious parties who were better aware maybe due their non-feudal background)?  And now comes the million dollar question, why do always present this conflict as a dichotomy between West-East , Urdu-Bangla, Punjabi-Bengali but do not discuss this as class conflict (no am not a Marxist but can’t ignore the elephant in the room!). </p>
<p>Isn’t that a fundamental difference between Pakistan and Bangladesh (India too!) that on one side power started devolving into masses (what with non-feudal leaders like Maulana Bhashani, Sheikh Mujib) while Punjab has been a laggard on this regard. The only self made leaders who have risen from bottom and did not have advantage of social/political/economic hierarchy are right-wing religious ones. Why isn’t there a progressive self made leader like elsewhere.<br />
Hope to see some answers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Towards 1971 II: The Making of a Tragedy by Saadia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saadia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 06:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the shout-out!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Towards 1971 II: The Making of a Tragedy by MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 02:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good read!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Towards 1971 I: A Personal Journey by Towards 1971 II: The Making of a Tragedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Towards 1971 II: The Making of a Tragedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Tick Tock IX: The Not Yet Nation by Towards 1971 I: A Personal Journey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Towards 1971 I: A Personal Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the people’s movement (popularly referred to as the Lawyer’s Movement) to oust General Pervez Musharraf in 2007, I started taking issue with the Pakistan Army’s heavy [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Baluchistan Issue by Towards 1971 I: A personal Journey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Towards 1971 I: A personal Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] me a line of inquiry with which to probe the murky events in Pakistan’s history, such as the Balochistan issue. With such unraveling of the official narrative, it becomes somewhat possible to think of the 1971 [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Missing in Pakistan by Towards 1971 I: A personal Journey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Towards 1971 I: A personal Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ne wahan sab pakar liye hain” [We have apprehended/captured all of them.] Indeed, many have been apprehended, and some released as dead bodies on the roads bearing torture marks, something that Justice Raja [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Who is Zaid Hamid? by BABAR AwAn</title>
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		<dc:creator>BABAR AwAn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 11:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sir we r proud of u ... me and my family totly aggried with ur viws and ideas infact we all stand with u . sir i want to join u and became a part of ur glorious movement how i can join u and how i spread ur massege plz reply ISLAM ZINDA BAD........ PAKISTAN PAINDA BAD....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sir we r proud of u &#8230; me and my family totly aggried with ur viws and ideas infact we all stand with u . sir i want to join u and became a part of ur glorious movement how i can join u and how i spread ur massege plz reply ISLAM ZINDA BAD&#8230;&#8230;.. PAKISTAN PAINDA BAD&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who is Zaid Hamid? by Hafiz Ahmad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hafiz Ahmad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>respected teacher,
assalam-u-alikum.
 sir ,
i salute you
Pakistan zindabad &amp; islam paindabad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>respected teacher,<br />
assalam-u-alikum.<br />
 sir ,<br />
i salute you<br />
Pakistan zindabad &amp; islam paindabad.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Little Book of Terror launch and art opening in Philadelphia by Sultan Asif</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sultan Asif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 08:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Success after success. You deserve our appreciations and prayers.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Of Mobs and Muslims, the Rushdie Limit and Rushdie Capital by BarkatGee</title>
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		<dc:creator>BarkatGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superbly written post.  I only recently had a similar argument with this same breed of &quot;liberal supremacist&quot; who argued (with a straight face) that Messrs. Hitchens &amp; Amis&#039;s open advocacy and support for the systematic harassment and deportation of British Muslims was less abhorrent than Muslim reverence for the Quran and its &quot;violent&quot; content.  When I read Mr. Eagleton&#039;s article I felt that he had taken the words right out of my mouth:  &quot;Whether they like it or not, Dawkins and his ilk have become weapons in the war on terror. Western supremacism has gravitated from the Bible to atheism.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superbly written post.  I only recently had a similar argument with this same breed of &#8220;liberal supremacist&#8221; who argued (with a straight face) that Messrs. Hitchens &amp; Amis&#8217;s open advocacy and support for the systematic harassment and deportation of British Muslims was less abhorrent than Muslim reverence for the Quran and its &#8220;violent&#8221; content.  When I read Mr. Eagleton&#8217;s article I felt that he had taken the words right out of my mouth:  &#8220;Whether they like it or not, Dawkins and his ilk have become weapons in the war on terror. Western supremacism has gravitated from the Bible to atheism.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Curio Americana: Ben Ishmael Tribe by Shko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate that there are people showing interest in my people.  But I must add a few notes.

We did not disapear.  We have done what we have always done.  We hide in plain sight.  

The first arrivals were brought by the Spanish in the late 1500s.   Spain was unsuccessful in colonizing the Americas.  They left many behind in the area that would be known as the Rowland/Orange/Person counties of North Carolina.

The second group would be brought here from the Netherlands and England.  Some before the Puritans, New Amsterdam.  For the next 75 boatloads of Roma from all over Europe would be used as labor and explorers.  Who else to explore a new frontier than those who had 500 years of history being in a strange land surrounded by strange people? 

The next wave of Roma would come from Scotland and Germany.  The Scottish were often expelled Jacobites.  

&quot;Scots Banished to the Plantations&quot;  is an excellent source to see who was sent here and for what crime.

All of these different groups of Roma migrated into NE Eastern Kentucky,  specifically Wolfe and Magoffin County.  We stayed there from 1790 until about 1920.

The racial purity laws of that time made it very difficult.  Starting around 1880, the people in north eastern Kentucky started traveling to Indiana, Ohio, and Illinois.  They would then go through the mid west Arkansas, Missouri, and over to Colorado.  They would go south to Florida over to Texas.

We would change our names from Roosa to Rose.  Brandenburg to Brennan.  Nickel to Nicholson.  We&#039;d change our first names from Elvira to Evelyn.  Josephus to Jo.

We&#039;d join Baptist churches.  We&#039;d start churches.  We&#039;d hide among the Freemasons.  We&#039;d become governors and lawyers.  We&#039;d start cults.  We&#039;d start homeless shelters.

We do all the things everyone else does.  Some good.  Some bad.

We&#039;re people just like anyone else.  We&#039;re Jews, and Muslims, and Atheists, and Mormons.  But on the inside we are Roma.  Among friends we are Roma.  

Some still travel to this day.  Others haven&#039;t traveled for hundreds of years.

But we didn&#039;t go anywhere.  We&#039;re right here as we&#039;ve always been.  Hiding in plain sight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate that there are people showing interest in my people.  But I must add a few notes.</p>
<p>We did not disapear.  We have done what we have always done.  We hide in plain sight.  </p>
<p>The first arrivals were brought by the Spanish in the late 1500s.   Spain was unsuccessful in colonizing the Americas.  They left many behind in the area that would be known as the Rowland/Orange/Person counties of North Carolina.</p>
<p>The second group would be brought here from the Netherlands and England.  Some before the Puritans, New Amsterdam.  For the next 75 boatloads of Roma from all over Europe would be used as labor and explorers.  Who else to explore a new frontier than those who had 500 years of history being in a strange land surrounded by strange people? </p>
<p>The next wave of Roma would come from Scotland and Germany.  The Scottish were often expelled Jacobites.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Scots Banished to the Plantations&#8221;  is an excellent source to see who was sent here and for what crime.</p>
<p>All of these different groups of Roma migrated into NE Eastern Kentucky,  specifically Wolfe and Magoffin County.  We stayed there from 1790 until about 1920.</p>
<p>The racial purity laws of that time made it very difficult.  Starting around 1880, the people in north eastern Kentucky started traveling to Indiana, Ohio, and Illinois.  They would then go through the mid west Arkansas, Missouri, and over to Colorado.  They would go south to Florida over to Texas.</p>
<p>We would change our names from Roosa to Rose.  Brandenburg to Brennan.  Nickel to Nicholson.  We&#8217;d change our first names from Elvira to Evelyn.  Josephus to Jo.</p>
<p>We&#8217;d join Baptist churches.  We&#8217;d start churches.  We&#8217;d hide among the Freemasons.  We&#8217;d become governors and lawyers.  We&#8217;d start cults.  We&#8217;d start homeless shelters.</p>
<p>We do all the things everyone else does.  Some good.  Some bad.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re people just like anyone else.  We&#8217;re Jews, and Muslims, and Atheists, and Mormons.  But on the inside we are Roma.  Among friends we are Roma.  </p>
<p>Some still travel to this day.  Others haven&#8217;t traveled for hundreds of years.</p>
<p>But we didn&#8217;t go anywhere.  We&#8217;re right here as we&#8217;ve always been.  Hiding in plain sight.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Of Mobs and Muslims, the Rushdie Limit and Rushdie Capital by the rusdhie affair,de-constructed, a tweet at a time &#124; sqchspeak</title>
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		<dc:creator>the rusdhie affair,de-constructed, a tweet at a time &#124; sqchspeak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on The Little Book of Terror launch and art opening in Philadelphia by lapata</title>
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		<dc:creator>lapata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 02:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent! Was just thinking I needed to track you down.</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Little Book of Terror launch and art opening in Philadelphia by phillygrrl</title>
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		<dc:creator>phillygrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 02:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hurrah! I shall be there!</description>
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		<title>Comment on I am a horse. by The Little Book of Terror launch and art opening in Philadelphia</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Little Book of Terror launch and art opening in Philadelphia</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Subcontinent. Dedicated CM readers will recognize this series instantly from my old but gold post I am a Horse. These paintings have never before been shown outside of the internet! And to top it all off, the [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Of Mobs and Muslims, the Rushdie Limit and Rushdie Capital by Joseph Hutchison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Hutchison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 19:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a difference between rejecting, even despising, religions—especially the more fanatical aspects of religions—and promoting murder? I think there is, and you seem to acknowledge it. So let’s set aside the nasty things Rushdie’s friends, and Rushdie himself for all I know, have said about Islam. Hitchens, at least, has attacked fundamentalist Christianity in similar terms.

Let’s focus on the line between speech, which I believe we’re all in favor of being unfettered, and acts, which we should all agree must be judged from a standpoint of moral equivalence. Is the prosecution of the Iraq War equivalent to the fatwa against Rushdie? It seems clear to me that the war was very much higher on the scale of immorality than the call for Rushdie’s murder. The fact that Amis or Remnick or Hitchens could see some equivalence between the two, and even consider the fatwa more reprehensible than the slaughter they supported, is the height of hypocrisy. This is not to suggest that Eagleton is right about Rushdie; he [Eagleton] had to eat his words after claiming that Rushdie had “a fondness for the Pentagon’s politics” regarding the Iraq War—an outright lie—so his opinions on Rushdie’s views of Islam are grain-of-salt worthy. Regardless, anyone has the right to despise Islam—or Catholicism or Mormonism—and to speak about it if he or she so desires; but no one has the right to slaughter people based on such views. Speech and act are not the same thing.

The great irony that you so brilliantly call to our attention is the fact that defenders of free speech should also be active supporters of state-sponsored murder. These people must be confronted about their hypocrisy whenever they open their mouths. Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a difference between rejecting, even despising, religions—especially the more fanatical aspects of religions—and promoting murder? I think there is, and you seem to acknowledge it. So let’s set aside the nasty things Rushdie’s friends, and Rushdie himself for all I know, have said about Islam. Hitchens, at least, has attacked fundamentalist Christianity in similar terms.</p>
<p>Let’s focus on the line between speech, which I believe we’re all in favor of being unfettered, and acts, which we should all agree must be judged from a standpoint of moral equivalence. Is the prosecution of the Iraq War equivalent to the fatwa against Rushdie? It seems clear to me that the war was very much higher on the scale of immorality than the call for Rushdie’s murder. The fact that Amis or Remnick or Hitchens could see some equivalence between the two, and even consider the fatwa more reprehensible than the slaughter they supported, is the height of hypocrisy. This is not to suggest that Eagleton is right about Rushdie; he [Eagleton] had to eat his words after claiming that Rushdie had “a fondness for the Pentagon’s politics” regarding the Iraq War—an outright lie—so his opinions on Rushdie’s views of Islam are grain-of-salt worthy. Regardless, anyone has the right to despise Islam—or Catholicism or Mormonism—and to speak about it if he or she so desires; but no one has the right to slaughter people based on such views. Speech and act are not the same thing.</p>
<p>The great irony that you so brilliantly call to our attention is the fact that defenders of free speech should also be active supporters of state-sponsored murder. These people must be confronted about their hypocrisy whenever they open their mouths. Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Of Mobs and Muslims, the Rushdie Limit and Rushdie Capital by omar</title>
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		<dc:creator>omar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. I don&#039;t want to get on the wrong side of the esteemed Chapati Mystery team (I am a real fan), but &quot;What bothered me was the way in which the debate had been hijacked—&quot; cuts both ways. This is a fine example of hijacking a debate about freedom of expression to pound in your favorite poco insights while the iron is hot.
2. &quot;that all right-minded Muslims, Indians, Indian Muslims, lovers of literature, and lovers of free speech everywhere are obligated take up cudgels on behalf of Rushdie. And in their exaggerated claim that such an act will reverse decades of intolerance and make whole India’s compromised modernity and failed enlightenment.&quot;
Well, the first claim doesnt sound too outlandish to me. Why not ask all right-minded people to take up cudgels on behalf of a writer who is being prevented from appearing at a literary festival? That seems a desirable (even if optimistic) thing to hope for. No? 
About the second statement, well, it sounds suspiciously like a straw man argument. Since I have not &quot;obsessively followed&quot; the whole thing on social media, I cannot provide quantitative evidence to back up my hunch, but in my old age i do have hunches based on experience (decades of liberal leftist &quot;adda&quot; under my belt) and my hunch is that this is a straw man argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. I don&#8217;t want to get on the wrong side of the esteemed Chapati Mystery team (I am a real fan), but &#8220;What bothered me was the way in which the debate had been hijacked—&#8221; cuts both ways. This is a fine example of hijacking a debate about freedom of expression to pound in your favorite poco insights while the iron is hot.<br />
2. &#8220;that all right-minded Muslims, Indians, Indian Muslims, lovers of literature, and lovers of free speech everywhere are obligated take up cudgels on behalf of Rushdie. And in their exaggerated claim that such an act will reverse decades of intolerance and make whole India’s compromised modernity and failed enlightenment.&#8221;<br />
Well, the first claim doesnt sound too outlandish to me. Why not ask all right-minded people to take up cudgels on behalf of a writer who is being prevented from appearing at a literary festival? That seems a desirable (even if optimistic) thing to hope for. No?<br />
About the second statement, well, it sounds suspiciously like a straw man argument. Since I have not &#8220;obsessively followed&#8221; the whole thing on social media, I cannot provide quantitative evidence to back up my hunch, but in my old age i do have hunches based on experience (decades of liberal leftist &#8220;adda&#8221; under my belt) and my hunch is that this is a straw man argument.</p>
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