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		<title>Comment on On the Sink of Specie by sepoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sepoy</dc:creator>
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		<description>@Tiffin: Thanks for picking the typo. And yes, these figures do not include the rather large salaries the employees picked up, their private businesses nor their remittances back to England. I also do not think they reflect the profit to the board itself - these are the returns to the Crown. Remember that the Company was privately held and traded, so I am sure getting the dough into the hands of the monarch wasn&#039;t really the point. 

I quote Rama Dev Roy, &quot;Some Aspects of the Economic Drain from India during the British Rule&quot;, &lt;em&gt;Social Scientist&lt;/em&gt;, Vol. 15, No. 3 (Mar., 1987), pp. 39-47:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Romesh Dutt in his &lt;em&gt;Economic history of India&lt;/em&gt; estimated in 1901 the Indian debt from 1806 t0 1901 at 220 million pounds and the remittances through home charges at 16 million pounds per annum. The salaries of European officers stood at 10 million pounds. Thus, one-half of the net revenue collected in India (&#163;44 million) was drained out to England. During the 46 years from 1722-93 to 1837-38 the total profit of the Company, 32 million pounds, was entirely distributed among the share holders as dividends and moreover they had to resort to borrowing when India was obliged to pay the interest. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tiffin: Thanks for picking the typo. And yes, these figures do not include the rather large salaries the employees picked up, their private businesses nor their remittances back to England. I also do not think they reflect the profit to the board itself &#8211; these are the returns to the Crown. Remember that the Company was privately held and traded, so I am sure getting the dough into the hands of the monarch wasn&#8217;t really the point. </p>
<p>I quote Rama Dev Roy, &#8220;Some Aspects of the Economic Drain from India during the British Rule&#8221;, <em>Social Scientist</em>, Vol. 15, No. 3 (Mar., 1987), pp. 39-47:</p>
<blockquote><p>Romesh Dutt in his <em>Economic history of India</em> estimated in 1901 the Indian debt from 1806 t0 1901 at 220 million pounds and the remittances through home charges at 16 million pounds per annum. The salaries of European officers stood at 10 million pounds. Thus, one-half of the net revenue collected in India (&pound;44 million) was drained out to England. During the 46 years from 1722-93 to 1837-38 the total profit of the Company, 32 million pounds, was entirely distributed among the share holders as dividends and moreover they had to resort to borrowing when India was obliged to pay the interest. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>Comment on Nine Lives by Salman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mazower&#039;s new piece with shades of Mamdani&#039;s Saviors and Survivors.
http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/articles/2010-MarApr/full-Mazower-MA-2010.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mazower&#8217;s new piece with shades of Mamdani&#8217;s Saviors and Survivors.<br />
<a href="http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/articles/2010-MarApr/full-Mazower-MA-2010.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/articles/2010-MarApr/full-Mazower-MA-2010.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on On the Sink of Specie by Tiffin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering how you&#039;d transcribed this when in the 4th paragraph I came across, &quot;creation oflloms&quot; which is surely, &quot;creation of looms.&quot;
Please correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but doesn&#039;t this sort of accounting of the profitability of the East India Company omit the private profits of its employees? Or are these somehow factored in? The bottom line of the Company itself doesn&#039;t necessarily reflect the full extent of the plunder going on, right? Please forgive my blundering imbecility, but I remain your lowly undergraduate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering how you&#8217;d transcribed this when in the 4th paragraph I came across, &#8220;creation oflloms&#8221; which is surely, &#8220;creation of looms.&#8221;<br />
Please correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but doesn&#8217;t this sort of accounting of the profitability of the East India Company omit the private profits of its employees? Or are these somehow factored in? The bottom line of the Company itself doesn&#8217;t necessarily reflect the full extent of the plunder going on, right? Please forgive my blundering imbecility, but I remain your lowly undergraduate.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who is Zaid Hamid? by Salman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christopher Hitchens, May be?
http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/homistan/oh_the_drudgery_of_punditry.html
yawn!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher Hitchens, May be?<br />
<a href="http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/homistan/oh_the_drudgery_of_punditry.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/homistan/oh_the_drudgery_of_punditry.html</a><br />
yawn!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who is Zaid Hamid? by Salman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor man&#039;s Tom Friedman? Is that you?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/03/opinion/03friedman.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor man&#8217;s Tom Friedman? Is that you?<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/03/opinion/03friedman.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/03/opinion/03friedman.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Who is Zaid Hamid? by Beh-Yahoo-di</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beh-Yahoo-di</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Problem with Pakistan:
- A nation (Pakistan) without nationals, Pakistanis (It is called set up). 
- Pakistanis – ruling elite especially eastablisment, Army and ISI who to rule are stuck in the past inept at moving on.  Ruling elites think that “all will be well” if  they will get Kashmir.  
- Pakistan has never found the true purpose of existence,  its existance is defined only in relation to India.  India has to be painted as negatively as possible.
- Pakistanis are savior of the islamic world. 

Ordinary Pakistani should question &quot;What will make their life better &quot;?  Pakistanis should demand better education, health and public services from their leaders.  Pakistan should work hard to make its citizens lives better and progress rather than stopping others from progressing. Problem with Pakistan is that mullah, Islamic fundamentalists, politicians, army and ISI are fueling religious sentiments and anti-India hysteria to serve their own self interest, nobody is thinking about Pakistan&#039;s progress. 

Forward thinking will help to advance Pakistan economically, economic power counts more in the world than religious ideology. Ideology or theory reflects the solutions of the problems faced during that time. The problems change as time changes so what soultion was relevant 60 years ago might not be good for todays problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Problem with Pakistan:<br />
- A nation (Pakistan) without nationals, Pakistanis (It is called set up).<br />
- Pakistanis – ruling elite especially eastablisment, Army and ISI who to rule are stuck in the past inept at moving on.  Ruling elites think that “all will be well” if  they will get Kashmir.<br />
- Pakistan has never found the true purpose of existence,  its existance is defined only in relation to India.  India has to be painted as negatively as possible.<br />
- Pakistanis are savior of the islamic world. </p>
<p>Ordinary Pakistani should question &#8220;What will make their life better &#8220;?  Pakistanis should demand better education, health and public services from their leaders.  Pakistan should work hard to make its citizens lives better and progress rather than stopping others from progressing. Problem with Pakistan is that mullah, Islamic fundamentalists, politicians, army and ISI are fueling religious sentiments and anti-India hysteria to serve their own self interest, nobody is thinking about Pakistan&#8217;s progress. </p>
<p>Forward thinking will help to advance Pakistan economically, economic power counts more in the world than religious ideology. Ideology or theory reflects the solutions of the problems faced during that time. The problems change as time changes so what soultion was relevant 60 years ago might not be good for todays problems.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On the Sink of Specie by yesman</title>
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		<dc:creator>yesman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I miss the honesty in that article.</description>
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		<title>Comment on On the Sink of Specie by Jonathan Dresner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Dresner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s probably worth noting that a lot of the silver flowing into India was coming from China: the 1830s and &#039;40s were pretty much the height of the India-to-China opium trade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s probably worth noting that a lot of the silver flowing into India was coming from China: the 1830s and &#8217;40s were pretty much the height of the India-to-China opium trade.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On the Sink of Specie by Nikolai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikolai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;d be interested to compare this article with articles being currently in the nyt and show how there remains some similarity in sentiment (though regarding the &#039;middle east&#039; instead of india)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;d be interested to compare this article with articles being currently in the nyt and show how there remains some similarity in sentiment (though regarding the &#8216;middle east&#8217; instead of india)</p>
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		<title>Comment on On the Sink of Specie by Anirban</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anirban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent reading material filled with the typical patronizing, Eurocentric drivel common then.  Was it then, a &quot;mutiny&quot; or a &quot;revolt&quot;? And to a layman such as myself, the question still depends on who you ask.

Incidentally, the antique book on &quot;natural science&quot; I am currently reading is also filled with anachronistic misgivings which attribute the purported superiority of  &quot;Nordic races&quot; to popular, but erroneous interpretations of Darwinism and Natural Selection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent reading material filled with the typical patronizing, Eurocentric drivel common then.  Was it then, a &#8220;mutiny&#8221; or a &#8220;revolt&#8221;? And to a layman such as myself, the question still depends on who you ask.</p>
<p>Incidentally, the antique book on &#8220;natural science&#8221; I am currently reading is also filled with anachronistic misgivings which attribute the purported superiority of  &#8220;Nordic races&#8221; to popular, but erroneous interpretations of Darwinism and Natural Selection.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who is Zaid Hamid? by omar</title>
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		<dc:creator>omar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shamelessly cross posting from the new Zaid Hamid thread: Manan, I will play devil’s advocate and say that this phenomenon is very interesting, but not that important in “real life”. It seems bigger than it is because the people lining up to cheer “Sir Zaid” are OUR class, especially in Punjab. But I think his 15 minutes are almost up and he will soon be replaced by some other figure.
Hardcore jihadi ideology existed before Allama Iqbal and Zaid Hamid (yes, you heard me right; I did put this ass and the great poet in the same sentence) and will pretty much exist after the ISI decides to dump “Sir Zaid”. For those people who are exploding in markets and mosques the anjuman e himayat e Islam verses of Allama Lahori and the rants of Zaid sahib are really just the icing on the cake, not a cause of the problem. Then you have the mummy-daddy jihadis who flock to lectures by Zaid Hamid. Well, I am sorry, but I am not too impressed with this lot. They are not capable of exploding or even doing something moderately dangerous like harboring a terrorist. They are just filling in time between dates at “Tea-coffee and me” and A-level superexams (in which they do almost as well as the Indians). Allama and this Zaid Hamid nonsense is just entertainment and emotional release. Sure, some will go nuts like that fraud Qudratullah Shahab and invent stories of spying in Israel without sleeping for ten days (he actually believed that…reminds me of “a beautiful mind”, but without the beautiful mind). They will get some degraded version of western education, do tech level jobs or get rich fleecing medicare (OK, I am kidding, they will do all kinds of solid real work and bring up their families and pay their mortgages, good solid middle class lives await most of them)…they are not a serious threat.
I am NOT claiming that everyone in Pakistan is on the verge of some kind of middle class utopia. I am just saying the “sir zaid and sir azmat” crowd is a small middle class phenomenon with NO resonance in the larger mass of Pakistanis. And I am happy to lay a bet on this with anyone who thinks Sir Zaid will become some kind of serious player in Pakistani politics. Even Imran Khan (whose ideology is a more sensible version of Sir Zaid’s ranting) has more real support than this joker. And I am one of those who think HE (the great Imran, who I really do think is a “great hero”) has no serious future in Pakistani politics either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shamelessly cross posting from the new Zaid Hamid thread: Manan, I will play devil’s advocate and say that this phenomenon is very interesting, but not that important in “real life”. It seems bigger than it is because the people lining up to cheer “Sir Zaid” are OUR class, especially in Punjab. But I think his 15 minutes are almost up and he will soon be replaced by some other figure.<br />
Hardcore jihadi ideology existed before Allama Iqbal and Zaid Hamid (yes, you heard me right; I did put this ass and the great poet in the same sentence) and will pretty much exist after the ISI decides to dump “Sir Zaid”. For those people who are exploding in markets and mosques the anjuman e himayat e Islam verses of Allama Lahori and the rants of Zaid sahib are really just the icing on the cake, not a cause of the problem. Then you have the mummy-daddy jihadis who flock to lectures by Zaid Hamid. Well, I am sorry, but I am not too impressed with this lot. They are not capable of exploding or even doing something moderately dangerous like harboring a terrorist. They are just filling in time between dates at “Tea-coffee and me” and A-level superexams (in which they do almost as well as the Indians). Allama and this Zaid Hamid nonsense is just entertainment and emotional release. Sure, some will go nuts like that fraud Qudratullah Shahab and invent stories of spying in Israel without sleeping for ten days (he actually believed that…reminds me of “a beautiful mind”, but without the beautiful mind). They will get some degraded version of western education, do tech level jobs or get rich fleecing medicare (OK, I am kidding, they will do all kinds of solid real work and bring up their families and pay their mortgages, good solid middle class lives await most of them)…they are not a serious threat.<br />
I am NOT claiming that everyone in Pakistan is on the verge of some kind of middle class utopia. I am just saying the “sir zaid and sir azmat” crowd is a small middle class phenomenon with NO resonance in the larger mass of Pakistanis. And I am happy to lay a bet on this with anyone who thinks Sir Zaid will become some kind of serious player in Pakistani politics. Even Imran Khan (whose ideology is a more sensible version of Sir Zaid’s ranting) has more real support than this joker. And I am one of those who think HE (the great Imran, who I really do think is a “great hero”) has no serious future in Pakistani politics either.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Apocalypses of Zaid Hamid by omar</title>
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		<dc:creator>omar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manan, I will play devil&#039;s advocate and say that this phenomenon is very interesting, but not that important in &quot;real life&quot;. It seems bigger than it is because the people lining up to cheer &quot;Sir Zaid&quot; are OUR class, especially in Punjab. But I think his 15 minutes are almost up and he will soon be replaced by some other figure. 
Hardcore jihadi ideology existed before Allama Iqbal and Zaid Hamid (yes, you heard me right; I did put this ass and the great poet in the same sentence) and will pretty much exist after the ISI decides to dump &quot;Sir Zaid&quot;.  For those people who are exploding in markets and mosques the anjuman e himayat e Islam verses of Allama Lahori and the rants of Zaid sahib are really just the icing on the cake, not a cause of the problem. Then you have the mummy-daddy jihadis who flock to lectures by Zaid Hamid. Well, I am sorry, but I am not too impressed with this lot. They are not capable of exploding or even doing something moderately dangerous like harboring a terrorist. They are just filling in time between dates at &quot;Tea-coffee and me&quot; and A-level superexams (in which they do almost as well as the Indians). Allama and this Zaid Hamid nonsense is just entertainment and emotional release. Sure, some will go nuts like that fraud Qudratullah Shahab and invent stories of spying in Israel without sleeping for ten days (he actually believed that...reminds me of &quot;a beautiful mind&quot;, but without the beautiful mind). They will get some degraded version of western education, do tech level jobs or get rich fleecing medicare (OK, I am kidding, they will do all kinds of solid real work and bring up their families and pay their mortgages, good solid middle class lives await most of them)...they are not a serious threat.
I am NOT claiming that everyone in Pakistan is on the verge of some kind of middle class utopia. I am just saying the &quot;sir zaid and sir azmat&quot; crowd is a small middle class phenomenon with NO resonance in the larger mass of Pakistanis. And I am happy to lay a bet on this with anyone who thinks Sir Zaid will become some kind of serious player in Pakistani politics. Even Imran Khan (whose ideology is a more sensible version of Sir Zaid&#039;s ranting) has more real support than this joker. And I am one of those who think HE (the great Imran, who I really do think is a &quot;great hero&quot;) has no serious future in Pakistani politics either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manan, I will play devil&#8217;s advocate and say that this phenomenon is very interesting, but not that important in &#8220;real life&#8221;. It seems bigger than it is because the people lining up to cheer &#8220;Sir Zaid&#8221; are OUR class, especially in Punjab. But I think his 15 minutes are almost up and he will soon be replaced by some other figure.<br />
Hardcore jihadi ideology existed before Allama Iqbal and Zaid Hamid (yes, you heard me right; I did put this ass and the great poet in the same sentence) and will pretty much exist after the ISI decides to dump &#8220;Sir Zaid&#8221;.  For those people who are exploding in markets and mosques the anjuman e himayat e Islam verses of Allama Lahori and the rants of Zaid sahib are really just the icing on the cake, not a cause of the problem. Then you have the mummy-daddy jihadis who flock to lectures by Zaid Hamid. Well, I am sorry, but I am not too impressed with this lot. They are not capable of exploding or even doing something moderately dangerous like harboring a terrorist. They are just filling in time between dates at &#8220;Tea-coffee and me&#8221; and A-level superexams (in which they do almost as well as the Indians). Allama and this Zaid Hamid nonsense is just entertainment and emotional release. Sure, some will go nuts like that fraud Qudratullah Shahab and invent stories of spying in Israel without sleeping for ten days (he actually believed that&#8230;reminds me of &#8220;a beautiful mind&#8221;, but without the beautiful mind). They will get some degraded version of western education, do tech level jobs or get rich fleecing medicare (OK, I am kidding, they will do all kinds of solid real work and bring up their families and pay their mortgages, good solid middle class lives await most of them)&#8230;they are not a serious threat.<br />
I am NOT claiming that everyone in Pakistan is on the verge of some kind of middle class utopia. I am just saying the &#8220;sir zaid and sir azmat&#8221; crowd is a small middle class phenomenon with NO resonance in the larger mass of Pakistanis. And I am happy to lay a bet on this with anyone who thinks Sir Zaid will become some kind of serious player in Pakistani politics. Even Imran Khan (whose ideology is a more sensible version of Sir Zaid&#8217;s ranting) has more real support than this joker. And I am one of those who think HE (the great Imran, who I really do think is a &#8220;great hero&#8221;) has no serious future in Pakistani politics either.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who is Zaid Hamid? by wazir khan</title>
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		<dc:creator>wazir khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear sir ,

i would like to start your mission here in Belgium and Europe and i would like and need advoice frome you to adress me what i have to do and how.2nd thing we Pakistanis looking for an place in our city to biuld a mosque and inshallah will be very soon but dear sir you know the 
pakistanis amossions about Islam same time they are too much amossional for that. please pray for us  and advice me 

thanks  and duaa for you to all you missions for Pakistan and Islam
wazir khan from Belgium</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear sir ,</p>
<p>i would like to start your mission here in Belgium and Europe and i would like and need advoice frome you to adress me what i have to do and how.2nd thing we Pakistanis looking for an place in our city to biuld a mosque and inshallah will be very soon but dear sir you know the<br />
pakistanis amossions about Islam same time they are too much amossional for that. please pray for us  and advice me </p>
<p>thanks  and duaa for you to all you missions for Pakistan and Islam<br />
wazir khan from Belgium</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Secret Lives of Internet Cafes by M.Arslan</title>
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		<dc:creator>M.Arslan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,
            I want to say that all the brothers and ladies that pakistan is our country.yeh hamara country hai aur hum ny ese theak krna hai</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
            I want to say that all the brothers and ladies that pakistan is our country.yeh hamara country hai aur hum ny ese theak krna hai</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Response by Wendy Doniger by kala bairava</title>
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		<dc:creator>kala bairava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wendy is trying to potray that caste system as an evil and this is her fallacy.  The problem with caste system has only been in implementation.

The caste system was meant to be a division of society on the basis of personal qualites and not by the heredity.

Any person who wanted to fight and be a warrior and interested in physical strength were classified as a Kshatriya.

Any person who was in the quest for knowledge of the self was classified as Brahman.

Any person who was interested in acquiring name and fame either by skilled labour and acquiring wealth  was classified as Vaishya.

Any person who did not want to do any of the above was a Shudra.

Each classification has a set of rules and regulations that allowed people with similar interests to get together and improve themselves. For Eg. a Brahman who is in search of knowledge should be able to resist pleasures of sense like taste and is therfore not allowed to eat tasty food (non vegetarian), consume alcohol etc. a brahman was not was granted food since they were not interested in acquiring wealth. In return for food, the brahmans were required to spread the knowledge that they felt would help the society. You can read THE LAWS OF MANU. 1500 BC translated by G. Buhler for the rules and regulations for each class.

Why do you think sportsmen want to compete with best in their game? it is the same thing. Here the system affords an opportunity for self growth. Otherwise a person who is interested in skilled labour would be forced to acquire knowledge which is not good for the society.

On that basis the Varna System, allowed people to identify themselves and classify themselves based on their interests.

It is people with half baked knowledge who created an impression that any class was lower. 

In reality the whole system was made to look evil by these half baked knowledge of so called analysts/reformists who could not fight out on the basis of knowledge. The non-hindu preachers and foreign missionaries started their evil campaign of spreading hatered towards other religions.

I hardly come to understand why these so called preachers are intolerant of other religions. They used the classic policy of &quot;DIVIDE AND RULE&quot; to create problems within people who lived happliy.

But I am sure that the fundamental religion of ever human being atleast in this 21st century is the religion of love and compassion.

Hate mongers who preach hatred and talk lowly and find fault with other are not spiritual people but politicians. They cannot proceed further in quest for knowledge because knowledge transcends religion.

If i can most humbly submit: The first step to seeking true knowledge is to turn inwards and find fault with yourself rather than with others.  People like ramanuja, christ and aristotle have failed to make their message of &quot;love and compassion&quot;

Today how many people who call youself christians and talk slyly and insult other religions practice love and compassion. 

Wendy would be better off preaching love and compassion rather than preaching hatered.

May love and compassion prevail. May the truth of knowledge clear the darkness of hatered in these souls. 

people who insult  other religions under the name of christ is shameful to say the least because it was christ who preached love and compassion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wendy is trying to potray that caste system as an evil and this is her fallacy.  The problem with caste system has only been in implementation.</p>
<p>The caste system was meant to be a division of society on the basis of personal qualites and not by the heredity.</p>
<p>Any person who wanted to fight and be a warrior and interested in physical strength were classified as a Kshatriya.</p>
<p>Any person who was in the quest for knowledge of the self was classified as Brahman.</p>
<p>Any person who was interested in acquiring name and fame either by skilled labour and acquiring wealth  was classified as Vaishya.</p>
<p>Any person who did not want to do any of the above was a Shudra.</p>
<p>Each classification has a set of rules and regulations that allowed people with similar interests to get together and improve themselves. For Eg. a Brahman who is in search of knowledge should be able to resist pleasures of sense like taste and is therfore not allowed to eat tasty food (non vegetarian), consume alcohol etc. a brahman was not was granted food since they were not interested in acquiring wealth. In return for food, the brahmans were required to spread the knowledge that they felt would help the society. You can read THE LAWS OF MANU. 1500 BC translated by G. Buhler for the rules and regulations for each class.</p>
<p>Why do you think sportsmen want to compete with best in their game? it is the same thing. Here the system affords an opportunity for self growth. Otherwise a person who is interested in skilled labour would be forced to acquire knowledge which is not good for the society.</p>
<p>On that basis the Varna System, allowed people to identify themselves and classify themselves based on their interests.</p>
<p>It is people with half baked knowledge who created an impression that any class was lower. </p>
<p>In reality the whole system was made to look evil by these half baked knowledge of so called analysts/reformists who could not fight out on the basis of knowledge. The non-hindu preachers and foreign missionaries started their evil campaign of spreading hatered towards other religions.</p>
<p>I hardly come to understand why these so called preachers are intolerant of other religions. They used the classic policy of &#8220;DIVIDE AND RULE&#8221; to create problems within people who lived happliy.</p>
<p>But I am sure that the fundamental religion of ever human being atleast in this 21st century is the religion of love and compassion.</p>
<p>Hate mongers who preach hatred and talk lowly and find fault with other are not spiritual people but politicians. They cannot proceed further in quest for knowledge because knowledge transcends religion.</p>
<p>If i can most humbly submit: The first step to seeking true knowledge is to turn inwards and find fault with yourself rather than with others.  People like ramanuja, christ and aristotle have failed to make their message of &#8220;love and compassion&#8221;</p>
<p>Today how many people who call youself christians and talk slyly and insult other religions practice love and compassion. </p>
<p>Wendy would be better off preaching love and compassion rather than preaching hatered.</p>
<p>May love and compassion prevail. May the truth of knowledge clear the darkness of hatered in these souls. </p>
<p>people who insult  other religions under the name of christ is shameful to say the least because it was christ who preached love and compassion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who is Zaid Hamid? by ali nawaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>ali nawaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Zaid Hamid is our pride....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Zaid Hamid is our pride&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who is Zaid Hamid? by ali nawaz</title>
		<link>http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/homistan/who_is_zaid_hamid.html/comment-page-2#comment-159432</link>
		<dc:creator>ali nawaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks to Allah Almighty who has blessed us with such brave mujahids......may he live long..........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks to Allah Almighty who has blessed us with such brave mujahids&#8230;&#8230;may he live long&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Nights I have Missed Out On by doktor haroun</title>
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		<dc:creator>doktor haroun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my entire knowledge of tiny tim comes from snippets like this, but wow do they add up...i have a memory of a long ago interview that sting gave of the rigors of playing upright bass in tiny tim&#039;s band, on i think, of all places, a cruise ship...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my entire knowledge of tiny tim comes from snippets like this, but wow do they add up&#8230;i have a memory of a long ago interview that sting gave of the rigors of playing upright bass in tiny tim&#8217;s band, on i think, of all places, a cruise ship&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Apocalypses of Zaid Hamid by sepoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sepoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Qalandar: &quot;who “need[s]” this?&quot;: Historians. My interest in Zaid Hamid started when I became aware of his historical programs. I refuse to secede this space to the likes of Hamid. 
@Nikolai: I think the same ball-park.
@ ottawamysteryman: thanks. al-Hind does not appear in the Qur&#039;an and in early sources represents the land EAST of Indus. It&#039;s conjugate Al-Sind would be present day Sindh up to Multan, maybe Lahore.
@tsk: danke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Qalandar: &#8220;who “need[s]” this?&#8221;: Historians. My interest in Zaid Hamid started when I became aware of his historical programs. I refuse to secede this space to the likes of Hamid.<br />
@Nikolai: I think the same ball-park.<br />
@ ottawamysteryman: thanks. al-Hind does not appear in the Qur&#8217;an and in early sources represents the land EAST of Indus. It&#8217;s conjugate Al-Sind would be present day Sindh up to Multan, maybe Lahore.<br />
@tsk: danke.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Apocalypses of Zaid Hamid by tsk</title>
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		<dc:creator>tsk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;So, I believe we need to deconstruct his claims on historical basis – while also, I guess, stating “Bullshit”. &#039;

gold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;So, I believe we need to deconstruct his claims on historical basis – while also, I guess, stating “Bullshit”. &#8216;</p>
<p>gold.</p>
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