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		<title>By: Akbar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Akbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 06:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Our House of Congress, four years after 9/11, has yet to figure out who or what our enemy is – or even what they are called. Democracy and Freedom are still names for pardoned Turkeys&quot;

Here Tom Engelhardt sheds some light on  &quot;Us&quot; and what &quot;we &quot;do

&quot;As a start, remind me: What didn’t we do? Let’s review for a moment. 

In the name of everything reasonable, and in the face of acts of evil by terrible people, we tortured wantonly and profligately, and some of these torture techniques — known to the previous administration and most of the media as &quot;enhanced interrogation techniques&quot; — were actually demonstrated to an array of top officials, including the national security adviser, the attorney general, and the secretary of state, within the White House. We imprisoned secretly at &quot;black sites&quot; offshore and beyond the reach of the American legal system, holding prisoners without hope of trial or, often, release; we disappeared people; we murdered prisoners; we committed strange acts of extreme abuse and humiliation; we kidnapped terror suspects off the global streets and turned some of them over to some of the worst people who ran the worst dungeons and torture chambers on the planet. Unknown, but not insignificant numbers of those kidnapped, abused, tortured, imprisoned, and/or murdered were actually innocent of any crimes against us. We invaded without pretext, based on a series of lies and the manipulation of Congress and the public. We occupied two countries with no clear intent to depart and built major networks of military bases in both. Our soldiers gunned down unknown numbers of civilians at checkpoints and, in each country, arrested thousands of people, some again innocent of any acts against us, imprisoning them often without trial or sometimes hope of release. Our Air Force repeatedly wiped out wedding parties and funerals in its global war on terror. It killed civilians in significant numbers. In the process of prosecuting two major invasions, wars, and occupations, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghans have died. In Iraq, we touched off a sectarian struggle of epic proportions that involved the &quot;cleansing&quot; of whole communities and major parts of cities, while unleashing a humanitarian crisis of remarkable size, involving the uprooting of more than four million people who fled into exile or became internal refugees. In these same years, our Special Forces operatives and our drone aircraft carried out — and still carry out — assassinations globally, acting as judge, jury, and executioner, sometimes of innocent civilians. We spied on, and electronically eavesdropped on, our own citizenry and much of the rest of the world, on a massive scale whose dimensions we may not yet faintly know. We pretzled the English language, creating an Orwellian terminology that, among other things, essentially defined &quot;torture&quot; out of existence (or, at the very least, left its definitional status to the torturer). &quot;

http://original.antiwar.com/engelhardt/2009/07/23/facing-the-american-world-we-created/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Our House of Congress, four years after 9/11, has yet to figure out who or what our enemy is – or even what they are called. Democracy and Freedom are still names for pardoned Turkeys&#8221;</p>
<p>Here Tom Engelhardt sheds some light on  &#8220;Us&#8221; and what &#8220;we &#8220;do</p>
<p>&#8220;As a start, remind me: What didn’t we do? Let’s review for a moment. </p>
<p>In the name of everything reasonable, and in the face of acts of evil by terrible people, we tortured wantonly and profligately, and some of these torture techniques — known to the previous administration and most of the media as &#8220;enhanced interrogation techniques&#8221; — were actually demonstrated to an array of top officials, including the national security adviser, the attorney general, and the secretary of state, within the White House. We imprisoned secretly at &#8220;black sites&#8221; offshore and beyond the reach of the American legal system, holding prisoners without hope of trial or, often, release; we disappeared people; we murdered prisoners; we committed strange acts of extreme abuse and humiliation; we kidnapped terror suspects off the global streets and turned some of them over to some of the worst people who ran the worst dungeons and torture chambers on the planet. Unknown, but not insignificant numbers of those kidnapped, abused, tortured, imprisoned, and/or murdered were actually innocent of any crimes against us. We invaded without pretext, based on a series of lies and the manipulation of Congress and the public. We occupied two countries with no clear intent to depart and built major networks of military bases in both. Our soldiers gunned down unknown numbers of civilians at checkpoints and, in each country, arrested thousands of people, some again innocent of any acts against us, imprisoning them often without trial or sometimes hope of release. Our Air Force repeatedly wiped out wedding parties and funerals in its global war on terror. It killed civilians in significant numbers. In the process of prosecuting two major invasions, wars, and occupations, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghans have died. In Iraq, we touched off a sectarian struggle of epic proportions that involved the &#8220;cleansing&#8221; of whole communities and major parts of cities, while unleashing a humanitarian crisis of remarkable size, involving the uprooting of more than four million people who fled into exile or became internal refugees. In these same years, our Special Forces operatives and our drone aircraft carried out — and still carry out — assassinations globally, acting as judge, jury, and executioner, sometimes of innocent civilians. We spied on, and electronically eavesdropped on, our own citizenry and much of the rest of the world, on a massive scale whose dimensions we may not yet faintly know. We pretzled the English language, creating an Orwellian terminology that, among other things, essentially defined &#8220;torture&#8221; out of existence (or, at the very least, left its definitional status to the torturer). &#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;us vs them&#8221; &#38; &#8220;the global ideology of fear&#8221; &#171; The Shape Of The World</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;us vs them&#8221; &#38; &#8220;the global ideology of fear&#8221; &#171; The Shape Of The World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 02:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the rest of Manan (Sepoy) Ahmed&#8217;s piece at  http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/imperial_watch/they.html   Riz Khan- Arab-Americans in Military: (July 31, 2007) The founder of an association for Arab [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the rest of Manan (Sepoy) Ahmed&#8217;s piece at  http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/imperial_watch/they.html   Riz Khan- Arab-Americans in Military: (July 31, 2007) The founder of an association for Arab [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;us vs them&#8221; &#38; the global ideology of fear &#171; The Shape Of The World</title>
		<link>http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/imperial_watch/they.html/comment-page-1#comment-157611</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;us vs them&#8221; &#38; the global ideology of fear &#171; The Shape Of The World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the rest of Manan (Sepoy) Ahmed&#8217;s piece at  http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/imperial_watch/they.html   Riz Khan- Arab-Americans in Military: (July 31, 2007) The founder of an association for Arab [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the rest of Manan (Sepoy) Ahmed&#8217;s piece at  http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/imperial_watch/they.html   Riz Khan- Arab-Americans in Military: (July 31, 2007) The founder of an association for Arab [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Islam in America IV: The Muslim next door &#171; The Shape Of The World</title>
		<link>http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/imperial_watch/they.html/comment-page-1#comment-156955</link>
		<dc:creator>Islam in America IV: The Muslim next door &#171; The Shape Of The World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 23:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from They by [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] from They by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ali Ghafoori</title>
		<link>http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/imperial_watch/they.html/comment-page-1#comment-4746</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali Ghafoori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One is reminded of Hizbollah and Hamas in Lebanon and Palestine, and how they came to fill the void created by absence of government and associated infrastructure and services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One is reminded of Hizbollah and Hamas in Lebanon and Palestine, and how they came to fill the void created by absence of government and associated infrastructure and services.</p>
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		<title>By: Joy. D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joy. D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the first time I am visiting your website and I already like it. Sorry for promoting my site this way but if possible visit my podcasting website Voice of ambition at http://blogandhra.com/voa . Just released second episode which features Patrix from Desipundit as a guest to discuss on the topic &quot;Is true democracy a distant dream?&quot; Also help me to spread the word and if you like my efforts please blogroll me. Thanks in advance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the first time I am visiting your website and I already like it. Sorry for promoting my site this way but if possible visit my podcasting website Voice of ambition at <a href="http://blogandhra.com/voa" rel="nofollow">http://blogandhra.com/voa</a> . Just released second episode which features Patrix from Desipundit as a guest to discuss on the topic &#8220;Is true democracy a distant dream?&#8221; Also help me to spread the word and if you like my efforts please blogroll me. Thanks in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: detrimental postulation &#187; the sepoys shall inherit the earth</title>
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		<dc:creator>detrimental postulation &#187; the sepoys shall inherit the earth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Following on from his empathic piece on suffering and the inequality of mourning, we get to see how such a sensitive approach might work in (a) an analytical frame and (b) the practice of disaster relief, with &#8216;They&#8216;, an excellent post which skids through a typically inventive m√©lange of William Dalrymple and some blindingly stupid congressional representatives in order to emerge at something like a warning. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Following on from his empathic piece on suffering and the inequality of mourning, we get to see how such a sensitive approach might work in (a) an analytical frame and (b) the practice of disaster relief, with &#8216;They&#8216;, an excellent post which skids through a typically inventive m√©lange of William Dalrymple and some blindingly stupid congressional representatives in order to emerge at something like a warning. [...]</p>
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