Comments on: Who is Zaid Hamid?

By: Salman

Salman — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:29:23 +0000

Christopher Hitchens, May be?
http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/homistan/oh_the_drudgery_of_punditry.html
yawn!!!

By: Salman

Salman — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:28:26 +0000

Poor man’s Tom Friedman? Is that you?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/03/opinion/03friedman.html

By: Beh-Yahoo-di

Beh-Yahoo-di — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:15:58 +0000

Problem with Pakistan:
- A nation (Pakistan) without nationals, Pakistanis (It is called set up).
- Pakistanis – ruling elite especially eastablisment, Army and ISI who to rule are stuck in the past inept at moving on. Ruling elites think that “all will be well” if they will get Kashmir.
- Pakistan has never found the true purpose of existence, its existance is defined only in relation to India. India has to be painted as negatively as possible.
- Pakistanis are savior of the islamic world.

Ordinary Pakistani should question “What will make their life better “? Pakistanis should demand better education, health and public services from their leaders. Pakistan should work hard to make its citizens lives better and progress rather than stopping others from progressing. Problem with Pakistan is that mullah, Islamic fundamentalists, politicians, army and ISI are fueling religious sentiments and anti-India hysteria to serve their own self interest, nobody is thinking about Pakistan’s progress.

Forward thinking will help to advance Pakistan economically, economic power counts more in the world than religious ideology. Ideology or theory reflects the solutions of the problems faced during that time. The problems change as time changes so what soultion was relevant 60 years ago might not be good for todays problems.

By: omar

omar — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:40:04 +0000

shamelessly cross posting from the new Zaid Hamid thread: Manan, I will play devil’s advocate and say that this phenomenon is very interesting, but not that important in “real life”. It seems bigger than it is because the people lining up to cheer “Sir Zaid” are OUR class, especially in Punjab. But I think his 15 minutes are almost up and he will soon be replaced by some other figure.
Hardcore jihadi ideology existed before Allama Iqbal and Zaid Hamid (yes, you heard me right; I did put this ass and the great poet in the same sentence) and will pretty much exist after the ISI decides to dump “Sir Zaid”. For those people who are exploding in markets and mosques the anjuman e himayat e Islam verses of Allama Lahori and the rants of Zaid sahib are really just the icing on the cake, not a cause of the problem. Then you have the mummy-daddy jihadis who flock to lectures by Zaid Hamid. Well, I am sorry, but I am not too impressed with this lot. They are not capable of exploding or even doing something moderately dangerous like harboring a terrorist. They are just filling in time between dates at “Tea-coffee and me” and A-level superexams (in which they do almost as well as the Indians). Allama and this Zaid Hamid nonsense is just entertainment and emotional release. Sure, some will go nuts like that fraud Qudratullah Shahab and invent stories of spying in Israel without sleeping for ten days (he actually believed that…reminds me of “a beautiful mind”, but without the beautiful mind). They will get some degraded version of western education, do tech level jobs or get rich fleecing medicare (OK, I am kidding, they will do all kinds of solid real work and bring up their families and pay their mortgages, good solid middle class lives await most of them)…they are not a serious threat.
I am NOT claiming that everyone in Pakistan is on the verge of some kind of middle class utopia. I am just saying the “sir zaid and sir azmat” crowd is a small middle class phenomenon with NO resonance in the larger mass of Pakistanis. And I am happy to lay a bet on this with anyone who thinks Sir Zaid will become some kind of serious player in Pakistani politics. Even Imran Khan (whose ideology is a more sensible version of Sir Zaid’s ranting) has more real support than this joker. And I am one of those who think HE (the great Imran, who I really do think is a “great hero”) has no serious future in Pakistani politics either.

By: wazir khan

wazir khan — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:48:27 +0000

dear sir ,

i would like to start your mission here in Belgium and Europe and i would like and need advoice frome you to adress me what i have to do and how.2nd thing we Pakistanis looking for an place in our city to biuld a mosque and inshallah will be very soon but dear sir you know the
pakistanis amossions about Islam same time they are too much amossional for that. please pray for us and advice me

thanks and duaa for you to all you missions for Pakistan and Islam
wazir khan from Belgium

By: ali nawaz

ali nawaz — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:01:58 +0000

Mr Zaid Hamid is our pride….

By: ali nawaz

ali nawaz — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:00:28 +0000

thanks to Allah Almighty who has blessed us with such brave mujahids……may he live long……….

By: akhtar iqbal

akhtar iqbal — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:45:30 +0000

Mr zahid hamid is our proud and dignity.
Allah keep him safe and sound to anymis.

By: Syed Ali

Syed Ali — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:42:58 +0000

Dear Sir,
Your lecture is good for the crowd consumption.But your first and foremost priority should be to educate 90 % of uneducated lots of Pakistan.People do not understand your talk as they are hungry and sick.For Godsake put sometime to all these issues as well.Emotional speeches do not unload burden from our shoulder.Concrete steps are required.You should do what you are doing but also motivate people for education,health and housing.Thanks

By: namaloom

namaloom — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:27:18 +0000

Dear Brothers
plz chk link
Zaid Hamid Admits His Links To Yousuf Kazzab – Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zwgWOI0iyo

By: mason

mason — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:45:16 +0000

he is gando

By: Naz

Naz — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:09:16 +0000

Its sad to see how people will go to any extent to defame someone. All the accusations are based on a primary convention that Yusuf actually did claim to be a prophet. One must look into solid evidence before taking such huge steps as we are all accountable in front of Allah and he who misleads for worldly gain or limited understanding because of less effort will be in a very vulnerable position on the day of judgement. Also please see this for further guidance”:

http://www.mediafire.com/?jjmddjtwd2z

By: Jonathan Dresner

Jonathan Dresner — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:50:26 +0000

I don’t know how I missed this post. This is the problem with RSS feeds, though: I had no idea this thread was here!

Wow.

By: Qalandar

Qalandar — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:27:20 +0000

Is this the new secret lives of internet cafes thread?

By: Aqib Mumtaz

Aqib Mumtaz — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:50:13 +0000

I would request you everyone to Please clear your minds for Zaid Hamid … He is True Mard-e-Momin and Mujahid … Go through my blog … Read it … and be the part of Mr.Zaid Hamid mission for Takmeel-e-Pakistan … Your comments will be highly appreciated. Thanks.

http://slimlogix.blogspot.com/2010/03/mrzaid-hamid-true-mujahid.html

By: yumy

yumy — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:26:36 +0000

People like zaid Hamid, the lower the IQ the more you hate them !!!

By: Dr. Haider Shah

Dr. Haider Shah — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:17:29 +0000

People like Zaid are symptoms of an acute Psychiatric disorder at national level; unable to do any wonders in the world we enjoy being led into a fantasy world; just like Heroin addicts we dont wish to come out of our state of affairs; We need Zaid kind of people to supply us uninterrupted doses of hallucinating drugs;

By: Akbar

Akbar — Sun, 21 Feb 2010 15:49:42 +0000

Pakistan was created based on emotions. After independence, Pakistan’s founding fathers didn’t reconstruct, reform and invest time to stabilize Pakistan but invaded Kashmir in 1948, why? It was thought that North-Eastern Indian muslims can’t live in India with Hindus (Muslim League represented the Indian muslims) and Islam will unite ethnic and cultural diverse Pakistanis

Did you by any chance read Jaswant Singh ’s “Jinnah-partition, India” and Why BJP expelled him? Is it a case of Projection ?

But Islam can’t tolerate diversity (Shia, Sunni, Ahmediyas etc) so it is not for Pakistan, Islam might work in a uniform muslim society like Iran (Shia) but we see problems already in Iran. Why, there is still debate what kind of country Pakistan should be, South-Eastern muslim countries (Malaysia) who gain independence in 1958 are more developed, why not Pakistan?

Can you point out how many contradictions are there in these five lines.
Malaysia last time I checked is pretty diverse in ethnicity and relgions actuallly probably more diverse than Pakistan, so Is ‘Malaysian Islam’ different than subcontinental or Iranian Islam? Now if we suppose history did not start in 1947, then how do you explain millions of people of Indian subcontinent origin embracing Islam voluntarily? Lats time I checked close to half billion people combined together in Pakistan ,India and Bangladesh profess Islam as their faith, Were/Are these irrational people ,who were waiting for a ‘religion that cannot tolerate diversity’ and adopted it as soon as they got a chance?

Romans, Ottoman and British empire did it, Pakistan is doing where it can (Afghanistan), why complan if US or West is doing, China has started to project its power, why complain.

So you are saying
‘might is right’ is fine as long as one is the mightiest.

If we have tribal or pond mentality and fight on small and petty interests, can’t see bigger picture, why blame others?
I was merely pointing to the bigger picture by bringing the factors that are beyond any Pakistani’s control in discussion, did not mean to blame anybody, neither wanted to grant myself or any Pakistani a pass on our own responsibilities, that is the primary factor needed to correct our situition.

We are stuck in past, we are glorifying invaders and foreginers like Bin-Kasims, Ghauris, Moguls etc.
You can find it on this blog also and through internet etc that Pakistani youth is having none of this. It may still be in some text books but people are much more smarter than that.

Let us work for peace, stability and constructively for the benefit of our people
Amen

By: omar

omar — Sun, 21 Feb 2010 06:41:18 +0000

Imran,
You are perfectly in tune with the tone of this blog. That is exactly what I meant, there is no such thing as holy war and all that jihad against infidels crap among the owners and regulars of this blog. Which is why I told Malik sahib that this Zaid Hamid crap is out of place here…..we are all liberals here, we dont like war (holy or unholy), we dont like imperialism (western or Arab, though some of us believe that it is not good form to talk of Arab imperialism when the Arabs are themselves imperial subjects now, let bygones be bygones and so on)…

By: Beh-Yahoo-di

Beh-Yahoo-di — Sun, 21 Feb 2010 00:18:16 +0000

>>>Policies of Pakistani govts (unrepresentative), State of Pakistan and people
>>>People like Hamid or Palin can stoke peoples emotions
Goverment and Army is made of people. Pakistan was created based on emotions. After independence, Pakistan’s founding fathers didn’t reconstruct, reform and invest time to stabilize Pakistan but invaded Kashmir in 1948, why? It was thought that North-Eastern Indian muslims can’t live in India with Hindus (Muslim League represented the Indian muslims) and Islam will unite ethnic and cultural diverse Pakistanis. But Islam can’t tolerate diversity (Shia, Sunni, Ahmediyas etc) so it is not for Pakistan, Islam might work in a uniform muslim society like Iran (Shia) but we see problems already in Iran. Why, there is still debate what kind of country Pakistan should be, South-Eastern muslim countries (Malaysia) who gain independence in 1958 are more developed, why not Pakistan?

>>>Economical /Financial order is stacked against some nations
Needy can’t dictate the conditions. You, yourself will not give money to somebody on his terms as simple as that.

>>> recommend you read ‘Super Imperialism”
Romans, Ottoman and British empire did it, Pakistan is doing where it can (Afghanistan), why complan if US or West is doing, China has started to project its power, why complain.

>>>it is not going to happen while mutitude of conflicts divide and subdivide people
If we have tribal or pond mentality and fight on small and petty interests, can’t see bigger picture, why blame others?

>>>You can recall are, beggars, stuck in past,violent,irrational, inefriority complex
We are stuck in past, we are glorifying invaders and foreginers like Bin-Kasims, Ghauris, Moguls etc. Pakistan has people who think rationally but never going to lead because Pakistanis are looking for quick solutions, someone to come, work and solve problems for them, like turning to Army for help.

If my comments could provoke thinking then it was worth. I am not trying to insult anybody here specially Pakistanis, I am sorry if my commnets came accross that way. I think the only way to progress is forward thinking, past is past, time to look forward for the benefit of our people. The conflict or war is not the solution to the problem but communication and dialogues are.

Let us work for peace, stability and constructively for the benefit of our people