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		<title>By: Akbar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Akbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 01:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read the following and  ponder thr real meaning of Negroponte Visist to Islamabad

washingtonpost.com: Negroponte's Time In Honduras at Issue
www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A52001-2005Mar20?language=printer 

How Negroponte Changes the Ground Rules: A Salvador Option for Iraq?
www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2005/240205groundrules.htm 

Negroponte's Record in Honduras Does not Inspire Confidence About His 
www.commondreams.org/views04/0602-08.htm 


Pentagon draws up plans for Pakistani fighting corps 
by Jim Mannion 
1 hour, 38 minutes ago
 


WASHINGTON (AFP) - The Pentagon plans to train and equip an expanded paramilitary force in Pakistan's tribal areas in a major effort to counter the growing strength of Al-Qaeda and Taliban forces, officials said Monday. 

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US Army troops will be used to train the Pakistani Frontier Corps at a new center in the tribal areas that border Afghanistan, said Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell.

The efforts come amid political instability in nuclear-armed Pakistan under President Pervez Musharraf and mounting US concerns over the spread of Islamic militancy.

It was unclear how many military trainers will be required, but any increase would significantly boost the US military presence in Pakistan, which currently numbers only about 50 military personnel, including embassy guards.

It also marks a shift in favor of a locally recruited paramilitary force that many have considered unreliable because it is drawn from Pashtun tribes sympathetic to the Taliban.

"We believe that, particularly in this part of Pakistan, it is more effective to work with a force raised from locals than it is to work with the Pak army," Morrell said.

The Pakistani army, he said, "is not viewed with the same kind of respect in that part of the country as is the Frontier Corps, which is comprised of people who know the language and who have grown up in the area, and have relations with tribal leaders there."

The Pentagon actually began investing in the Frontier Corps in fiscal year 2007, when the 80,000 member force was expanded by eight battalions and supplied with US helmets and vests, Morrell said.

Plans call for the addition of four more battalions in fiscal year 2008, the establishment of joint Pakistani-Afghan surveillance stations along the border, and establishment of the joint training center.

The Pakistani military will provide weapons and ammunition for the force, he said. But the US military will train the force and provide it non-lethal equipment, he said.

"The Pakistani government is totally on board with this," Morrell said.

It was unclear how much the five year security program will cost, but Morrell said the Pentagon is seeking 97 million dollars for this fiscal year. It spent 52.6 million dollars on the force in fiscal 2007.

The New York Times, which reported Monday on the Pentagon plans, put the cost for the Frontier Corps expansion at about 350 million dollars over several years.

"Our initiatives this year will be to develop four new battalions, to establish headquarters for those battalions, (and) integrate those border surveillance centers," Morrell said.

He said it is not known how many US Army trainers will be available because they are in high demand. So the Pentagon is looking to use foreign military trainers as well, he said.

US military training of the Pakistani military has been limited until now to air assault training, said Bryan Whitman, another Pentagon spokesman, who said US funding for that fell from 27 million in fiscal year 2006 to 5.3 million in fiscal 2007.

Additionally, the US Special Operations Command is developing separate plans to increase the counter-terrorism cooperation with the Pakistani military and to boost their capabilities, Whitman said.

But that has not yet been sent up the military chain of the command for approval, he said. 

The planning stems from a visit to Pakistan in August by Vice Admiral Eric Olson, the head of the command. 

It involved "capabilities that would help pursue the type of disruptive influences that are in Pakistan, without going into specifics," Whitman said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the following and  ponder thr real meaning of Negroponte Visist to Islamabad</p>
<p>washingtonpost.com: Negroponte&#8217;s Time In Honduras at Issue<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A52001-2005Mar20?language=printer" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A52001-2005Mar20?language=printer</a> </p>
<p>How Negroponte Changes the Ground Rules: A Salvador Option for Iraq?<br />
<a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2005/240205groundrules.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2005/240205groundrules.htm</a> </p>
<p>Negroponte&#8217;s Record in Honduras Does not Inspire Confidence About His<br />
<a href="http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0602-08.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0602-08.htm</a> </p>
<p>Pentagon draws up plans for Pakistani fighting corps<br />
by Jim Mannion<br />
1 hour, 38 minutes ago</p>
<p>WASHINGTON (AFP) - The Pentagon plans to train and equip an expanded paramilitary force in Pakistan&#8217;s tribal areas in a major effort to counter the growing strength of Al-Qaeda and Taliban forces, officials said Monday. </p>
<p>ADVERTISEMENT</p>
<p>US Army troops will be used to train the Pakistani Frontier Corps at a new center in the tribal areas that border Afghanistan, said Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell.</p>
<p>The efforts come amid political instability in nuclear-armed Pakistan under President Pervez Musharraf and mounting US concerns over the spread of Islamic militancy.</p>
<p>It was unclear how many military trainers will be required, but any increase would significantly boost the US military presence in Pakistan, which currently numbers only about 50 military personnel, including embassy guards.</p>
<p>It also marks a shift in favor of a locally recruited paramilitary force that many have considered unreliable because it is drawn from Pashtun tribes sympathetic to the Taliban.</p>
<p>&#8220;We believe that, particularly in this part of Pakistan, it is more effective to work with a force raised from locals than it is to work with the Pak army,&#8221; Morrell said.</p>
<p>The Pakistani army, he said, &#8220;is not viewed with the same kind of respect in that part of the country as is the Frontier Corps, which is comprised of people who know the language and who have grown up in the area, and have relations with tribal leaders there.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Pentagon actually began investing in the Frontier Corps in fiscal year 2007, when the 80,000 member force was expanded by eight battalions and supplied with US helmets and vests, Morrell said.</p>
<p>Plans call for the addition of four more battalions in fiscal year 2008, the establishment of joint Pakistani-Afghan surveillance stations along the border, and establishment of the joint training center.</p>
<p>The Pakistani military will provide weapons and ammunition for the force, he said. But the US military will train the force and provide it non-lethal equipment, he said.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Pakistani government is totally on board with this,&#8221; Morrell said.</p>
<p>It was unclear how much the five year security program will cost, but Morrell said the Pentagon is seeking 97 million dollars for this fiscal year. It spent 52.6 million dollars on the force in fiscal 2007.</p>
<p>The New York Times, which reported Monday on the Pentagon plans, put the cost for the Frontier Corps expansion at about 350 million dollars over several years.</p>
<p>&#8220;Our initiatives this year will be to develop four new battalions, to establish headquarters for those battalions, (and) integrate those border surveillance centers,&#8221; Morrell said.</p>
<p>He said it is not known how many US Army trainers will be available because they are in high demand. So the Pentagon is looking to use foreign military trainers as well, he said.</p>
<p>US military training of the Pakistani military has been limited until now to air assault training, said Bryan Whitman, another Pentagon spokesman, who said US funding for that fell from 27 million in fiscal year 2006 to 5.3 million in fiscal 2007.</p>
<p>Additionally, the US Special Operations Command is developing separate plans to increase the counter-terrorism cooperation with the Pakistani military and to boost their capabilities, Whitman said.</p>
<p>But that has not yet been sent up the military chain of the command for approval, he said. </p>
<p>The planning stems from a visit to Pakistan in August by Vice Admiral Eric Olson, the head of the command. </p>
<p>It involved &#8220;capabilities that would help pursue the type of disruptive influences that are in Pakistan, without going into specifics,&#8221; Whitman said.</p>
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		<title>By: misanthrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>misanthrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting those clips. That really does give a taste for how the Pakistani media could throw down the gauntlet to the government.

But its not just the government the media would grill. Recall there was the grilling given to Maulana Abdul Rashid Ghazi of the lal masjid by the ARY anchor the night his brother tried to escape by wearing a burqa. 
http://stopdesi.com/view_video.php?viewkey=56fc8a4d2a519803d51b

Sad to see that Geo and ARY are both off air, and that Aaj, while it is now back on air, has its main current affairs talk shows banned. I wonder if the last couple of years will be remembered as the Prague Spring of the Pakistani media?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting those clips. That really does give a taste for how the Pakistani media could throw down the gauntlet to the government.</p>
<p>But its not just the government the media would grill. Recall there was the grilling given to Maulana Abdul Rashid Ghazi of the lal masjid by the ARY anchor the night his brother tried to escape by wearing a burqa.<br />
<a href="http://stopdesi.com/view_video.php?viewkey=56fc8a4d2a519803d51b" rel="nofollow">http://stopdesi.com/view_video.php?viewkey=56fc8a4d2a519803d51b</a></p>
<p>Sad to see that Geo and ARY are both off air, and that Aaj, while it is now back on air, has its main current affairs talk shows banned. I wonder if the last couple of years will be remembered as the Prague Spring of the Pakistani media?</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey all,

There was a protest on 18th in London (Free Pakistan):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7100762.stm

I fear after this initial spark, people will just lie down again. Let's not let that happen and continue the momentum and let it snowball. Fight for Pakistan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey all,</p>
<p>There was a protest on 18th in London (Free Pakistan):</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7100762.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7100762.stm</a></p>
<p>I fear after this initial spark, people will just lie down again. Let&#8217;s not let that happen and continue the momentum and let it snowball. Fight for Pakistan!</p>
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		<title>By: kinkminos</title>
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		<dc:creator>kinkminos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dubai’s khalej times offers this er, credible explnation of the shutdown of GEO News:

“The closure of Dubai-based Pakistani TV channels — Geo News and ARY OneWorld — is in keeping with the UAE’s neutral foreign policy and the positive and constructive role it has played in international affairs, a top official of the country’s media regulatory authority has said.

“Ibrahim Al Abed, Director-General of National Media Council, commenting on the closure of the TV channels by Dubai Media City said yesterday that neutrality has been a key principle of UAE’s foreign policy.

“ ‘The UAE has been an advocate of international law and an active contributor to peace and stability in the region,’ he said.

“He added that ‘in the light of the current sensitive state of affairs in Pakistan, the UAE can only assume its responsibility and maintain its neutrality’.

“Al Abed reiterated that the closure of the two television stations is coherent with the foreign policy of the UAE.

“Amina Al Rostamani, Executive Director of Dubai Media City, said: ‘As an entity within the UAE, Dubai Media City would also observe the broadcast principles of the country’s foreign policy and prevent the telecast of news and material that would undermine those principles.’ ”

so there you haave it.
tsk tsk tsk. all this idle talk of musharaf piling preassure on the dubia govt to shut GEO dwon. and it was all simply a matter of geo-political neutrality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dubai’s khalej times offers this er, credible explnation of the shutdown of GEO News:</p>
<p>“The closure of Dubai-based Pakistani TV channels — Geo News and ARY OneWorld — is in keeping with the UAE’s neutral foreign policy and the positive and constructive role it has played in international affairs, a top official of the country’s media regulatory authority has said.</p>
<p>“Ibrahim Al Abed, Director-General of National Media Council, commenting on the closure of the TV channels by Dubai Media City said yesterday that neutrality has been a key principle of UAE’s foreign policy.</p>
<p>“ ‘The UAE has been an advocate of international law and an active contributor to peace and stability in the region,’ he said.</p>
<p>“He added that ‘in the light of the current sensitive state of affairs in Pakistan, the UAE can only assume its responsibility and maintain its neutrality’.</p>
<p>“Al Abed reiterated that the closure of the two television stations is coherent with the foreign policy of the UAE.</p>
<p>“Amina Al Rostamani, Executive Director of Dubai Media City, said: ‘As an entity within the UAE, Dubai Media City would also observe the broadcast principles of the country’s foreign policy and prevent the telecast of news and material that would undermine those principles.’ ”</p>
<p>so there you haave it.<br />
tsk tsk tsk. all this idle talk of musharaf piling preassure on the dubia govt to shut GEO dwon. and it was all simply a matter of geo-political neutrality.</p>
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		<title>By: Akbar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Akbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/story/2007/11/071117_mush_interview_fz.shtml" rel="nofollow"&gt;’میں ہوں توجوہری ہتھیار محفوظ ہیں"&lt;/a&gt;
Musharraf BBC Urdu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/story/2007/11/071117_mush_interview_fz.shtml" rel="nofollow">’میں ہوں توجوہری ہتھیار محفوظ ہیں&#8221;</a><br />
Musharraf BBC Urdu</p>
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		<title>By: Akbar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Akbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 02:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re  The White House says they are “bothered.”

Please sepoy next time you go on radios etc, make the connection that the theme of 'Might is right' currently being played in Islamabad is a cheaper version of the same played by Washington more openly since 9-11. The whole sript from pronouncements like "if you vote for opposition then terrorists win", "if you challenge govt you are unpatriotic" etc is same.
Benazir's pic above is priceless. If lapata can come up with a visual showing this pic, Mullah Omar and a portrait of BB with dupata and Tasbeeh, that will be enough to prove to keen west that BB is a closet fundie

You nawaz sharif is no Hemmingway, apologies to Ravians
Being in 50s if BB is Auntie then be ready for "Uncle Sepoy"
of more natively  "Chacha Sepoy"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re  The White House says they are “bothered.”</p>
<p>Please sepoy next time you go on radios etc, make the connection that the theme of &#8216;Might is right&#8217; currently being played in Islamabad is a cheaper version of the same played by Washington more openly since 9-11. The whole sript from pronouncements like &#8220;if you vote for opposition then terrorists win&#8221;, &#8220;if you challenge govt you are unpatriotic&#8221; etc is same.<br />
Benazir&#8217;s pic above is priceless. If lapata can come up with a visual showing this pic, Mullah Omar and a portrait of BB with dupata and Tasbeeh, that will be enough to prove to keen west that BB is a closet fundie</p>
<p>You nawaz sharif is no Hemmingway, apologies to Ravians<br />
Being in 50s if BB is Auntie then be ready for &#8220;Uncle Sepoy&#8221;<br />
of more natively  &#8220;Chacha Sepoy&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rohit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fatima Bhutto also has an editorial in the Times of India called the Daughter and the Dictator

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Review/The_daughter_and_the_dictator/articleshow/2549186.cms</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fatima Bhutto also has an editorial in the Times of India called the Daughter and the Dictator</p>
<p><a href="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Review/The_daughter_and_the_dictator/articleshow/2549186.cms" rel="nofollow">http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Review/The_daughter_and_the_dictator/articleshow/2549186.cms</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am interested in how the presence of international media has shaped the content of protests. A few days ago I saw footage of elderly bearded men dressed in shawar-kurta shouting on the CBC. I was surprised that they were protesting in English. That's not to say that English is not widely used, or that I have not seen footage of protesters shouting in Urdu, but I wonder how the presence of international media shapes what gets said. "What do we want?--Freedom!" is sort of a standard in America, but perhaps not the English equivalent of "Murda-bad!" I wonder how much this affects the demeanor of protesters, the tone of protests, and also the police's reactions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am interested in how the presence of international media has shaped the content of protests. A few days ago I saw footage of elderly bearded men dressed in shawar-kurta shouting on the CBC. I was surprised that they were protesting in English. That&#8217;s not to say that English is not widely used, or that I have not seen footage of protesters shouting in Urdu, but I wonder how the presence of international media shapes what gets said. &#8220;What do we want?&#8211;Freedom!&#8221; is sort of a standard in America, but perhaps not the English equivalent of &#8220;Murda-bad!&#8221; I wonder how much this affects the demeanor of protesters, the tone of protests, and also the police&#8217;s reactions.</p>
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