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	<description>what is the vertiginous chapati saying to me?</description>
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		<title>By: sepoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sepoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We shall dedicate the rest of August to The Rising! Man, I cannot wait. How come AK hasn't answered any of my calls for qs. where is that fearless nadia when u need her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We shall dedicate the rest of August to The Rising! Man, I cannot wait. How come AK hasn&#8217;t answered any of my calls for qs. where is that fearless nadia when u need her.</p>
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		<title>By: Morcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the Wiki entry on the movie suggests that a whole lot of liberties will be taken, but I'm not sure that it's entirely a "disservice."

I'm interested in &lt;i&gt;The Rising&lt;/i&gt; now mostly out of the political engagement of &lt;i&gt;Lagaan&lt;/i&gt;, a movie the first review of which I read took it to task for being startlingly anachronistic and ahistorical in terms of cricket. In my imagination, the anachronism of &lt;i&gt;Lagaan&lt;/i&gt; serves to make a (heavy-handed) allegorical point about contemporary India/Pakistan and national unity. Perhaps &lt;i&gt;The Rising&lt;/i&gt; will work similarly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the Wiki entry on the movie suggests that a whole lot of liberties will be taken, but I&#8217;m not sure that it&#8217;s entirely a &#8220;disservice.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in <i>The Rising</i> now mostly out of the political engagement of <i>Lagaan</i>, a movie the first review of which I read took it to task for being startlingly anachronistic and ahistorical in terms of cricket. In my imagination, the anachronism of <i>Lagaan</i> serves to make a (heavy-handed) allegorical point about contemporary India/Pakistan and national unity. Perhaps <i>The Rising</i> will work similarly.</p>
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		<title>By: Quizman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quizman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Week has &lt;a href="http://www.the-week.com/25aug07/currentevents_article10.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;a cover story&lt;/a&gt; on AK and The Rising. 

Quick. Name the person who was hanged along with Mangal Pandey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Week has <a href="http://www.the-week.com/25aug07/currentevents_article10.htm" rel="nofollow">a cover story</a> on AK and The Rising. </p>
<p>Quick. Name the person who was hanged along with Mangal Pandey.</p>
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		<title>By: bulleyah</title>
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		<dc:creator>bulleyah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>morcy,
i'm not quite sure if heavy handed historical allegory is necessarily a bad thing. it works in lagaan, and in mughal-e-azam. but mangal pandey is already such a heavy handed allegory, with so much nationalist chauvinist politics imbricatedinto the mythic figure...

quizman,
i don't know the name, but the guy was the jemadar who refused to bring m. pandey to book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>morcy,<br />
i&#8217;m not quite sure if heavy handed historical allegory is necessarily a bad thing. it works in lagaan, and in mughal-e-azam. but mangal pandey is already such a heavy handed allegory, with so much nationalist chauvinist politics imbricatedinto the mythic figure&#8230;</p>
<p>quizman,<br />
i don&#8217;t know the name, but the guy was the jemadar who refused to bring m. pandey to book.</p>
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		<title>By: Quizman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quizman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ishwari Prasad. 

Now why isn't he famous? [Why aren't Sukhdev and Rajguru as famous as BS?] How do these things work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ishwari Prasad. </p>
<p>Now why isn&#8217;t he famous? [Why aren't Sukhdev and Rajguru as famous as BS?] How do these things work?</p>
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		<title>By: Morcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose "heavy-handed" has some negative connotations. My point in adding it was that it was rather obvious to me, and I'm completely tone deaf when it comes to cultural markers from non-US parts of the world, or something like that.

I think it works in &lt;i&gt;Lagaan&lt;/i&gt; much like it works in &lt;i&gt;Sholay&lt;/i&gt;--the overriding theme is of unity against oppression, be it the British or bandits or whatever either signifies, perhaps separating forces, as in both movies are rather explicitly anti-chauvinist, after a fashion. I think even in &lt;i&gt;Lagaan&lt;/i&gt; there is direct reference to a fist as being stronger when the fingers are united into one.

Only via imagination can I see the cultural backstory value of mangal pandey, but from what little I've read about him, nothing mentions anything about having an English soldier as a best friend (or however &lt;i&gt;The Rising&lt;/i&gt; is going to make this work out). As a result, I imagine the politics might end up being very similar to &lt;i&gt;Lagaan&lt;/i&gt;'s, even if that means revising the chauvinist story that's already well-known.

But this is just my speculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose &#8220;heavy-handed&#8221; has some negative connotations. My point in adding it was that it was rather obvious to me, and I&#8217;m completely tone deaf when it comes to cultural markers from non-US parts of the world, or something like that.</p>
<p>I think it works in <i>Lagaan</i> much like it works in <i>Sholay</i>&#8211;the overriding theme is of unity against oppression, be it the British or bandits or whatever either signifies, perhaps separating forces, as in both movies are rather explicitly anti-chauvinist, after a fashion. I think even in <i>Lagaan</i> there is direct reference to a fist as being stronger when the fingers are united into one.</p>
<p>Only via imagination can I see the cultural backstory value of mangal pandey, but from what little I&#8217;ve read about him, nothing mentions anything about having an English soldier as a best friend (or however <i>The Rising</i> is going to make this work out). As a result, I imagine the politics might end up being very similar to <i>Lagaan</i>&#8217;s, even if that means revising the chauvinist story that&#8217;s already well-known.</p>
<p>But this is just my speculation.</p>
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		<title>By: sepoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sepoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Now why isn't he famous?&lt;/i&gt;.
As a historian, I contend that it was the lack of the upward curling 'stache.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Now why isn&#8217;t he famous?</i>.<br />
As a historian, I contend that it was the lack of the upward curling &#8217;stache.</p>
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		<title>By: bulleyah</title>
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		<dc:creator>bulleyah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah quizman, you got me...

now why wasn't ishwari prasad famous?
maybe becuase the dude savarkar never wrote about him? 
maybe because ishwari prasad is not as obviously a brahmin name as mangal pandey?
maybe becuase, as sepoy says, the moustache (always an important caste marker) didn't curl upwards...

one of the coolest, in my estimation, rebels of 1857 was Bakht Khan, the soldier who wrested control of Delhi's rebel forces away from the folhardy mughal princes by threatening to cut their ears off... but no one talks about him, do they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah quizman, you got me&#8230;</p>
<p>now why wasn&#8217;t ishwari prasad famous?<br />
maybe becuase the dude savarkar never wrote about him?<br />
maybe because ishwari prasad is not as obviously a brahmin name as mangal pandey?<br />
maybe becuase, as sepoy says, the moustache (always an important caste marker) didn&#8217;t curl upwards&#8230;</p>
<p>one of the coolest, in my estimation, rebels of 1857 was Bakht Khan, the soldier who wrested control of Delhi&#8217;s rebel forces away from the folhardy mughal princes by threatening to cut their ears off&#8230; but no one talks about him, do they?</p>
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		<title>By: abid mohammad</title>
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		<dc:creator>abid mohammad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mangal pandy is very magniefecent film and amir was interested the film will go to the national award and amir khan will win the best actor 
award this year thank you
your,s:anna balooch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mangal pandy is very magniefecent film and amir was interested the film will go to the national award and amir khan will win the best actor<br />
award this year thank you<br />
your,s:anna balooch</p>
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