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		<title>By: the darer</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 07:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear pakistani n indian frnds 
                                 I have read the comments n i feel sorry for those hu think pakistan is just a small country with no talent n loyal people.we PAKISTANIs r unpredictable n v dont lack talent.
            Do u remember golden years wen Dr.ATTA UR RAHMAN was head of  HEC..one of the indian news paper admit dat if He will remain for few more years india will left far behind than Pakistan in PhDs.yah dats the reality.there r  alot of high standard universities.QAU ,NUST,FAST,UET,GIK,LUMS,AKU,PU that r rated wid world class universities.Two students of PU won Nobel prize H.GOBiND KHORANA(Nobel prize in physiology in 1968) n Dr.ABDUS SALAM(Nobel prize in physics in 1979).
            If Pakistani PhDs come back(dat gov. is trying n many of them r back) than v vl b able to improve our education n vl produce a  highly qualified generation.     Mr.indian i guess u can understand now y not  v need indian professors.Mr.rohit sahrma u r rite there is no comparison of india n Pakistan as Pakistan is a small country as compared to india bt still v r leading in many fields.Mr.ranjeet bakhshi if u have ever learnt a thing about ISLAM then u shud know our religion is the one that emphasis to interrogate the nature.Try to b broad minded if u know nothing about some thing then dont talk about dat.About cricket u shud b well informed about ur own team than our&#039;s,u speak wat ur media prints n dats  not the whole  reality.
              I agree dat we r divided by borders n have  almost same problems. At the end i just want 2 say dat stop thinking like enemies b like educated people  for god&#039;s sake.stay happy n spread happiness</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear pakistani n indian frnds<br />
                                 I have read the comments n i feel sorry for those hu think pakistan is just a small country with no talent n loyal people.we PAKISTANIs r unpredictable n v dont lack talent.<br />
            Do u remember golden years wen Dr.ATTA UR RAHMAN was head of  HEC..one of the indian news paper admit dat if He will remain for few more years india will left far behind than Pakistan in PhDs.yah dats the reality.there r  alot of high standard universities.QAU ,NUST,FAST,UET,GIK,LUMS,AKU,PU that r rated wid world class universities.Two students of PU won Nobel prize H.GOBiND KHORANA(Nobel prize in physiology in 1968) n Dr.ABDUS SALAM(Nobel prize in physics in 1979).<br />
            If Pakistani PhDs come back(dat gov. is trying n many of them r back) than v vl b able to improve our education n vl produce a  highly qualified generation.     Mr.indian i guess u can understand now y not  v need indian professors.Mr.rohit sahrma u r rite there is no comparison of india n Pakistan as Pakistan is a small country as compared to india bt still v r leading in many fields.Mr.ranjeet bakhshi if u have ever learnt a thing about ISLAM then u shud know our religion is the one that emphasis to interrogate the nature.Try to b broad minded if u know nothing about some thing then dont talk about dat.About cricket u shud b well informed about ur own team than our&#8217;s,u speak wat ur media prints n dats  not the whole  reality.<br />
              I agree dat we r divided by borders n have  almost same problems. At the end i just want 2 say dat stop thinking like enemies b like educated people  for god&#8217;s sake.stay happy n spread happiness</p>
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		<title>By: username</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 14:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey howdie everyone! 
well i have read every comments and though i was not a very good student i can see privatization of the education in India is really costing us dearly. my younger brother and sister go to DPS and Amity International respectively. while my sis is in class tenth and her monthly fee is more than 7,000 rupees my brother is in class 5th in Amity and his monthly fee is more than 5,000 rupees. not to forget education has become a lucrative business in India and many of my dad&#039;s friends are now running their own stupid pathetic colleges. our ministers are a bunch of losers. they are busy in proposing stupid plans to reform education in India. i have many friends from Pakistan over internet and one of them is a student in medical college situated n Kohat (pardon me if i am wrong i am quite confused here). well if we have a close look Pakistan education is really not that bad and Indian education is not so good. yes there is a little difference for sure but our politicians are leaving no stones unturned to ruin the education system in India for the sake of goddamn votes. most of the schools,(run by the government ) do not have even roofs and those run by the private organizations, well they charge so much that many people can not even think of sending their children to these schools and sadly it is becoming a common Indian thinking that the schools that charge thousand bucks every month are only providing good education. god save education in India! do not lament Pakistani brothers we are no good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey howdie everyone!<br />
well i have read every comments and though i was not a very good student i can see privatization of the education in India is really costing us dearly. my younger brother and sister go to DPS and Amity International respectively. while my sis is in class tenth and her monthly fee is more than 7,000 rupees my brother is in class 5th in Amity and his monthly fee is more than 5,000 rupees. not to forget education has become a lucrative business in India and many of my dad&#8217;s friends are now running their own stupid pathetic colleges. our ministers are a bunch of losers. they are busy in proposing stupid plans to reform education in India. i have many friends from Pakistan over internet and one of them is a student in medical college situated n Kohat (pardon me if i am wrong i am quite confused here). well if we have a close look Pakistan education is really not that bad and Indian education is not so good. yes there is a little difference for sure but our politicians are leaving no stones unturned to ruin the education system in India for the sake of goddamn votes. most of the schools,(run by the government ) do not have even roofs and those run by the private organizations, well they charge so much that many people can not even think of sending their children to these schools and sadly it is becoming a common Indian thinking that the schools that charge thousand bucks every month are only providing good education. god save education in India! do not lament Pakistani brothers we are no good!</p>
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		<title>By: Tarique Al-Zobaidi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tarique Al-Zobaidi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well definitely there is a lot of difference between the 2 countries education system but there are similarities as well. I would say Indian youth get much more opportunities, as basic graduation is cheap. I completed my graduation in 2007 and the total cost for 3yrs as around Rs.10000. More opportunities mean: after graduation we can always join a good BPO like IBM, Genpact,infosys, sutherland,these are just a few to name. These BPO&#039;s run a program called EduCareer, under which employees can choose from a wide range of Masters degree. The company pays 80% of the fees, which is deducted in nominal installments from the salary. After completion they can move up the ladder in the same organization or try another one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well definitely there is a lot of difference between the 2 countries education system but there are similarities as well. I would say Indian youth get much more opportunities, as basic graduation is cheap. I completed my graduation in 2007 and the total cost for 3yrs as around Rs.10000. More opportunities mean: after graduation we can always join a good BPO like IBM, Genpact,infosys, sutherland,these are just a few to name. These BPO&#8217;s run a program called EduCareer, under which employees can choose from a wide range of Masters degree. The company pays 80% of the fees, which is deducted in nominal installments from the salary. After completion they can move up the ladder in the same organization or try another one.</p>
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		<title>By: divs</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 13:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey guys ,

hav religious topic in studies, but dont mix it, we in India also have prayers ,about god ect ,but we hav kept them in state lang. like hindi, marathi, guj.... many( as per the mother tongue text book ) ,same u people can do , keep all the religious study in 1st or 2nd lang. textbook ,like urdu if its ur mother tongue or in any other lang., and rest of topic like science, history, ss, maths , in english.
as we both have comman history , so wht is wrong sharing the history sub.
hwever one thing is sure in India we just dont have many institute and university but also a very high class coaching classes for the same.and  the middle calss family send their kids to this classes and ready to pay high fees , as they also belive education is must for their kids for their future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey guys ,</p>
<p>hav religious topic in studies, but dont mix it, we in India also have prayers ,about god ect ,but we hav kept them in state lang. like hindi, marathi, guj&#8230;. many( as per the mother tongue text book ) ,same u people can do , keep all the religious study in 1st or 2nd lang. textbook ,like urdu if its ur mother tongue or in any other lang., and rest of topic like science, history, ss, maths , in english.<br />
as we both have comman history , so wht is wrong sharing the history sub.<br />
hwever one thing is sure in India we just dont have many institute and university but also a very high class coaching classes for the same.and  the middle calss family send their kids to this classes and ready to pay high fees , as they also belive education is must for their kids for their future.</p>
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		<title>By: Rizwan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rizwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 00:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings, folks!

I would like to state an interesting anecdote. I graduated from FG Post Graduate College, H-8, in Islamabad in 1994. I was at the college until 1997, but thereafter my personal journey and interest took me away from Pakistan. I happened to be in Islamabad last year and asked my brother to take me to my college as the temptation to see the changes at my den of seven years was too great to ignore. 

What I saw was shocking and beyond belief, to say the least. Nothing had changed in 12 years since I had last visited the college as a student. The college building had more or less the same decor inside and out, the walls inside the class rooms were a horror show as windows with broken glass are just the way I had left more than a decade ago. Most doors can&#039;t be locked from inside our out. In short, there is not one thing that I would say had changed in11 years. It was shocking as it was painful. 

Higher education is what shapes the careers of future leaders and feeds a country with talent that can take the country forward. If this is the state of one of the best colleges in Islamabad, then it is very easy to assume that Pakistan is struggling big time. 

I have had the good fortune of attending schools in Pakistan and abroad, primarily in Sri Lanka and India, two countries who definitely have a much better education system than what we get to see and experience in Pakistan. Make no mistake about it!

Government schools, colleges and universities simply suck in Pakistan. Things may have improved off lately but it wasn&#039;t the case in the 90s when I was in college. Had it not been for my time spent in schools in Sri Lanka and India, I would have been just another individual walking around with a degree from University of the Punjab.

I am sorry to disappoint all those who feel highest education is Pakistan is a smash hit. It definitely is not. I say this from my own experience. The time I spent in college in Islamabad should have shaped my career in some way but obviously it did not. Imagine the plight of students who are enrolled at such institutions and who have no idea that most of them would be misfits in society since when they are done with their graduation/masters. A few of them would break free with a bit of luck and influence, but most of the students are staring at a bleak future, unfortunately. 

Here&#039;s a primer of what ails higher education system in Pakistan and what needs to be done (I don&#039;t remember the name of the author who wrote this but its a job well done by the person who completed this thesis): 

Problems in Pakistan

(i) access was very limited in universities. 
(ii) quality was very low in the fields of academic, administration, research and equipment. 
(iii) faculty and staff need development in knowledge and skills. 
(iv) funds were provided inadequate and misappropriation was common. 
(v) character building of the students was ignored. 
(vi) there was no linkage between university and industry. 
(vii) examination system was faulty. 
(viii) good governance was non-existent. 
(ix) private sector was expanding without merit. 

Recommendations to solve the problems mentioned above:
 
(i) Enrolment in universities should be increased by providing adequate all types of educational facilities. 
(ii) Quality of faculty, staff, students, library, laboratory, research and equipment should be enhanced. 
(iii) Development of faculty and staff should be ensured through meaningful continuous in-service training. 
(iv) Funds for higher education should be increased reasonably. 
(v) Character building of students should be focused. 
(vi) Linkage between university and industry should be established. 
(vii) Good governance should be ensured. 
(ix) More open universities should be established. 
(x) New disciplines should be started to meet the need of the market. 
(xi) Night classes should be started with transport facilities. 
(xii) Summer vacations should be banned. 
(xiii) Political activities should not be allowed. 
(xiv) Rules and regulations should be enforced forcefully. 

Anyone who agrees with these? Am all ears, people!

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings, folks!</p>
<p>I would like to state an interesting anecdote. I graduated from FG Post Graduate College, H-8, in Islamabad in 1994. I was at the college until 1997, but thereafter my personal journey and interest took me away from Pakistan. I happened to be in Islamabad last year and asked my brother to take me to my college as the temptation to see the changes at my den of seven years was too great to ignore. </p>
<p>What I saw was shocking and beyond belief, to say the least. Nothing had changed in 12 years since I had last visited the college as a student. The college building had more or less the same decor inside and out, the walls inside the class rooms were a horror show as windows with broken glass are just the way I had left more than a decade ago. Most doors can&#8217;t be locked from inside our out. In short, there is not one thing that I would say had changed in11 years. It was shocking as it was painful. </p>
<p>Higher education is what shapes the careers of future leaders and feeds a country with talent that can take the country forward. If this is the state of one of the best colleges in Islamabad, then it is very easy to assume that Pakistan is struggling big time. </p>
<p>I have had the good fortune of attending schools in Pakistan and abroad, primarily in Sri Lanka and India, two countries who definitely have a much better education system than what we get to see and experience in Pakistan. Make no mistake about it!</p>
<p>Government schools, colleges and universities simply suck in Pakistan. Things may have improved off lately but it wasn&#8217;t the case in the 90s when I was in college. Had it not been for my time spent in schools in Sri Lanka and India, I would have been just another individual walking around with a degree from University of the Punjab.</p>
<p>I am sorry to disappoint all those who feel highest education is Pakistan is a smash hit. It definitely is not. I say this from my own experience. The time I spent in college in Islamabad should have shaped my career in some way but obviously it did not. Imagine the plight of students who are enrolled at such institutions and who have no idea that most of them would be misfits in society since when they are done with their graduation/masters. A few of them would break free with a bit of luck and influence, but most of the students are staring at a bleak future, unfortunately. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a primer of what ails higher education system in Pakistan and what needs to be done (I don&#8217;t remember the name of the author who wrote this but its a job well done by the person who completed this thesis): </p>
<p>Problems in Pakistan</p>
<p>(i) access was very limited in universities.<br />
(ii) quality was very low in the fields of academic, administration, research and equipment.<br />
(iii) faculty and staff need development in knowledge and skills.<br />
(iv) funds were provided inadequate and misappropriation was common.<br />
(v) character building of the students was ignored.<br />
(vi) there was no linkage between university and industry.<br />
(vii) examination system was faulty.<br />
(viii) good governance was non-existent.<br />
(ix) private sector was expanding without merit. </p>
<p>Recommendations to solve the problems mentioned above:</p>
<p>(i) Enrolment in universities should be increased by providing adequate all types of educational facilities.<br />
(ii) Quality of faculty, staff, students, library, laboratory, research and equipment should be enhanced.<br />
(iii) Development of faculty and staff should be ensured through meaningful continuous in-service training.<br />
(iv) Funds for higher education should be increased reasonably.<br />
(v) Character building of students should be focused.<br />
(vi) Linkage between university and industry should be established.<br />
(vii) Good governance should be ensured.<br />
(ix) More open universities should be established.<br />
(x) New disciplines should be started to meet the need of the market.<br />
(xi) Night classes should be started with transport facilities.<br />
(xii) Summer vacations should be banned.<br />
(xiii) Political activities should not be allowed.<br />
(xiv) Rules and regulations should be enforced forcefully. </p>
<p>Anyone who agrees with these? Am all ears, people!</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Ankush</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To my Indian &amp; Pakistani friends,

I was a student until a few months back when I graduated with a degree in Engineering from a reputed University which is ranked just below the IITs. Like many of my fellow friends have stated, other than the IITs and select few other Institutes, Indian Universities have a lot to work for before they can claim to produce &#039;educated&#039;  pool of professionals. India spends a very small amount of its annual GDP on Education, and I believe its about 3% of our total GDP.  Thus, we cannot bask in Pakistan&#039;s bleak educational reforms if we cannot mend our own backyard.

However, I feel that if Pakistan feels the need to get Iranian/ Indian professors/ educationalists to help jump start the dying interest in Education, then both sides should be willing to acknowledge that both countries only stand to gain by it. Almost all my Indian and pakistani brothers will agree with me when I say that we&#039;re really the same people. We have nearly the same culture, our fashion is almost same, our food is similar ( Yes, my Pakistani friends like  spicy food too :-) ), and our way of life is quite similar too. So why do we need to compare?

Positive comparison only builds trust, friendship and loyalty, all three of which is lacking in India more than in Pakistan,  I kid you not when I say I have met some Pakistanis who were so good to me  that it could change anyone&#039;s idea about Pakistan as a whole. I honestly vouch for such people&#039;s generosity.

Both countries are developing, and maybe India has had some few crowning achievements but that doesn&#039;t give us the reins to belittle Pakistan. 

I honestly pray both countries prosper and  become a beacon of achievement for other countries to look up upon. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To my Indian &amp; Pakistani friends,</p>
<p>I was a student until a few months back when I graduated with a degree in Engineering from a reputed University which is ranked just below the IITs. Like many of my fellow friends have stated, other than the IITs and select few other Institutes, Indian Universities have a lot to work for before they can claim to produce &#8216;educated&#8217;  pool of professionals. India spends a very small amount of its annual GDP on Education, and I believe its about 3% of our total GDP.  Thus, we cannot bask in Pakistan&#8217;s bleak educational reforms if we cannot mend our own backyard.</p>
<p>However, I feel that if Pakistan feels the need to get Iranian/ Indian professors/ educationalists to help jump start the dying interest in Education, then both sides should be willing to acknowledge that both countries only stand to gain by it. Almost all my Indian and pakistani brothers will agree with me when I say that we&#8217;re really the same people. We have nearly the same culture, our fashion is almost same, our food is similar ( Yes, my Pakistani friends like  spicy food too :-) ), and our way of life is quite similar too. So why do we need to compare?</p>
<p>Positive comparison only builds trust, friendship and loyalty, all three of which is lacking in India more than in Pakistan,  I kid you not when I say I have met some Pakistanis who were so good to me  that it could change anyone&#8217;s idea about Pakistan as a whole. I honestly vouch for such people&#8217;s generosity.</p>
<p>Both countries are developing, and maybe India has had some few crowning achievements but that doesn&#8217;t give us the reins to belittle Pakistan. </p>
<p>I honestly pray both countries prosper and  become a beacon of achievement for other countries to look up upon. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Ranjeet Bakshi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ranjeet Bakshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Pakistani friends,
Really  speaking I am very curious about Pakistan culture and devlopments. I am in IT indistry since last 15 years and in digital technology for 15 years. I travelled many  countries and spent a lot of time there.
I stayed in Korea also for about 2 years and fortunately I had deep study on Pakistan through TV channels .
My guest house we had Pakistani cooks and interacted with them well.
My conclusions with reference to education are as below.
1. Seperate Islam from Education, Some one has mentioned this above.This thinking is curse for Pakistan\Afganistan may be bangladesh etc.
I have seen many pak debates linking islam with Science.
2. Delinking Islam with education should be done from Nursery  class itself.
Pl note that education has nothing to  with religion.
3. Pak  as nation ,pl do not be ambassodor of Islam but ambassador of modern technology.
4. Please educate your women as they only inclucate a child values.
5. DO not discurage a person like homistan.Open eyes to good around your country.
6. Your cricket team is true example of your country where every player pulls leg of other player.
Regarding getting Indian teachers : If you pay  to M.Tech guy 15 Lakhs per annum,they will come( provided visa:-))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Pakistani friends,<br />
Really  speaking I am very curious about Pakistan culture and devlopments. I am in IT indistry since last 15 years and in digital technology for 15 years. I travelled many  countries and spent a lot of time there.<br />
I stayed in Korea also for about 2 years and fortunately I had deep study on Pakistan through TV channels .<br />
My guest house we had Pakistani cooks and interacted with them well.<br />
My conclusions with reference to education are as below.<br />
1. Seperate Islam from Education, Some one has mentioned this above.This thinking is curse for Pakistan\Afganistan may be bangladesh etc.<br />
I have seen many pak debates linking islam with Science.<br />
2. Delinking Islam with education should be done from Nursery  class itself.<br />
Pl note that education has nothing to  with religion.<br />
3. Pak  as nation ,pl do not be ambassodor of Islam but ambassador of modern technology.<br />
4. Please educate your women as they only inclucate a child values.<br />
5. DO not discurage a person like homistan.Open eyes to good around your country.<br />
6. Your cricket team is true example of your country where every player pulls leg of other player.<br />
Regarding getting Indian teachers : If you pay  to M.Tech guy 15 Lakhs per annum,they will come( provided visa:-))</p>
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		<title>By: Rohit Sharma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohit Sharma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dev Kittur- Maybe your mind is not mature enough to read History in it&#039;s pure essence. I studied under the ICSE board and there was nothing in the books that misplaced facts. The other side of the border has got political interests in modifying history and so it does. Stop comparing Pakistan with India and mind your own business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dev Kittur- Maybe your mind is not mature enough to read History in it&#8217;s pure essence. I studied under the ICSE board and there was nothing in the books that misplaced facts. The other side of the border has got political interests in modifying history and so it does. Stop comparing Pakistan with India and mind your own business.</p>
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		<title>By: admin pnb</title>
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		<description>Fake Degrees Vs Fake Petrol Bills

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		<title>By: Amar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 07:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first of all pakis should get rid of peple like hassan haq...i found it rather queer to know that pakis link all their education with islam???y the hell u people connect everything with islam?1)pakis should first de-link islam with their education system...i hope some people will take my comments positively...its only for the betterment of pakistan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first of all pakis should get rid of peple like hassan haq&#8230;i found it rather queer to know that pakis link all their education with islam???y the hell u people connect everything with islam?1)pakis should first de-link islam with their education system&#8230;i hope some people will take my comments positively&#8230;its only for the betterment of pakistan</p>
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		<title>By: Amar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 07:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think most of here have forgotten that IIT-JEE(IIT JOINT ENTERANCE EXAMINATION) is considered 2b the &quot;most rutheless exam on this planet&quot;...most of pakis will pee at the very sight of JEE question paper...it is more difficult 2gt in2 IIT than 2gt in2 harvard...JEE paper is as difficult as OLAPIYAD paper....i think people like &quot;HASSAN HAQ&quot; are real problem for pki higher education...first of all u should get rid of such fundamentalists...may allah help u flourish...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think most of here have forgotten that IIT-JEE(IIT JOINT ENTERANCE EXAMINATION) is considered 2b the &#8220;most rutheless exam on this planet&#8221;&#8230;most of pakis will pee at the very sight of JEE question paper&#8230;it is more difficult 2gt in2 IIT than 2gt in2 harvard&#8230;JEE paper is as difficult as OLAPIYAD paper&#8230;.i think people like &#8220;HASSAN HAQ&#8221; are real problem for pki higher education&#8230;first of all u should get rid of such fundamentalists&#8230;may allah help u flourish&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: khalid ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>khalid ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 14:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going through some of the comments, i feel sorry on part of both student and teacher.
I use to be student in late 70s. If i look back and compare the students and teacher relationship of those days and now, only thing i conclude is the &quot;money&quot; . My teacher use to teach me free of cost in his spare time, and all the game is of earning money. You induct Indian or Srilanken or Iranian teacher, things will not improve? unless we as Pakistani realize our responsibilities. An FA fail President who ran from Pattaro college, many ministers having false degrees, Water &amp;Power Ministery is run by law graduate and many like him.  PUT THE RIGHT MAN AT RIGHT PLACE, you will get the results. Chose those persons who deserve. Respect the merit. You will see everything will improve Inshahallah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going through some of the comments, i feel sorry on part of both student and teacher.<br />
I use to be student in late 70s. If i look back and compare the students and teacher relationship of those days and now, only thing i conclude is the &#8220;money&#8221; . My teacher use to teach me free of cost in his spare time, and all the game is of earning money. You induct Indian or Srilanken or Iranian teacher, things will not improve? unless we as Pakistani realize our responsibilities. An FA fail President who ran from Pattaro college, many ministers having false degrees, Water &amp;Power Ministery is run by law graduate and many like him.  PUT THE RIGHT MAN AT RIGHT PLACE, you will get the results. Chose those persons who deserve. Respect the merit. You will see everything will improve Inshahallah.</p>
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		<title>By: anshuman mohanty</title>
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		<dc:creator>anshuman mohanty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 05:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we in india give more emphasis on brain stroming . As a management student i have seen that profs give more stress on &quot;thinking out of box&quot; though memorisation of concepts upto some extend is expected also imporsonifacation of facts through case studies are done  which makes our concept crystal clear.. my university is only a mediocore one but still we are encouraged to compete with top universities and somehow we are made felt that we have the potential. semniars, paper presentation ,corporate talks are quite common in our college. we are given full liberty to interact with them . recently we had a very nice time talking with a proffessor form INSEAD. we talk with  our faculties freely on different issues may be in their cabins or in lounges. faculties visit our hostel quite often ,we share costructive gossips. They are more like buddies. At the end of each term we are asked to give unbiased feedbacks on our profs where our identity is kept secret and basing on our commnents they are accesed. most of our profs are from corporate sectors with vast experience ( unlike govt university they are paid hefty). classroom are fully equipped with modern teaching techniques
i just want to convey that IITs and IIMs are not the only ones . southern india have many institues of repute like BITS,  SYMBIOSIS,  ISB( hyd), IMT, NITs, IIIT, AIIMS, XLRI, XIMB, WELINKER , MDI, NARSEE MONJEE are few to name .



Anshuman Mohanty
Btech , MBA ( contd)
KIIT university
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we in india give more emphasis on brain stroming . As a management student i have seen that profs give more stress on &#8220;thinking out of box&#8221; though memorisation of concepts upto some extend is expected also imporsonifacation of facts through case studies are done  which makes our concept crystal clear.. my university is only a mediocore one but still we are encouraged to compete with top universities and somehow we are made felt that we have the potential. semniars, paper presentation ,corporate talks are quite common in our college. we are given full liberty to interact with them . recently we had a very nice time talking with a proffessor form INSEAD. we talk with  our faculties freely on different issues may be in their cabins or in lounges. faculties visit our hostel quite often ,we share costructive gossips. They are more like buddies. At the end of each term we are asked to give unbiased feedbacks on our profs where our identity is kept secret and basing on our commnents they are accesed. most of our profs are from corporate sectors with vast experience ( unlike govt university they are paid hefty). classroom are fully equipped with modern teaching techniques<br />
i just want to convey that IITs and IIMs are not the only ones . southern india have many institues of repute like BITS,  SYMBIOSIS,  ISB( hyd), IMT, NITs, IIIT, AIIMS, XLRI, XIMB, WELINKER , MDI, NARSEE MONJEE are few to name .</p>
<p>Anshuman Mohanty<br />
Btech , MBA ( contd)<br />
KIIT university<br />
bhubaneswar</p>
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		<title>By: ali</title>
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		<dc:creator>ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>salam to all. well I am studying in uet lahore . i don`t see any lack of research . we are provided with maximum facilities . we are allowed to get books (any book) from  libraries of our specific department and a giant main library . There are so many computers in university(core 2) that i can hardly imagine it to be government institute. there is only one mosque in university and 4 book shops ,two student services centers. computer labs remain open till dawn .our teachers never dictate from books nor from any sort of notes .several workshops are arranged like pc workshop. international societies are there in the university. the pattern of exams is such that that we cant crammer.teachers daily give us assignments .we ourselves make projects. i dont say that pakistan`s universities do not have shortcomings but what the author is writing is just exaggeration . i advise hoodboy to check nust ,giki,fast,uet lahore,sir agha khan institute ,lums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>salam to all. well I am studying in uet lahore . i don`t see any lack of research . we are provided with maximum facilities . we are allowed to get books (any book) from  libraries of our specific department and a giant main library . There are so many computers in university(core 2) that i can hardly imagine it to be government institute. there is only one mosque in university and 4 book shops ,two student services centers. computer labs remain open till dawn .our teachers never dictate from books nor from any sort of notes .several workshops are arranged like pc workshop. international societies are there in the university. the pattern of exams is such that that we cant crammer.teachers daily give us assignments .we ourselves make projects. i dont say that pakistan`s universities do not have shortcomings but what the author is writing is just exaggeration . i advise hoodboy to check nust ,giki,fast,uet lahore,sir agha khan institute ,lums.</p>
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		<title>By: On Higher Education in Pakistan II</title>
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		<dc:creator>On Higher Education in Pakistan II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BigOth</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigOth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The system there is pathetic...
There&#039;s too much of rote learning rather than understanding the subject than that stifles the creativity kids have, 
The system there tried to tell them what to think and what their opinions on certain things ought to be, most kids in the subcontinent don&#039;t have the vision to think outside the box. explains why most desis (in India/ Pakistan atleast) are closed minded</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The system there is pathetic&#8230;<br />
There&#8217;s too much of rote learning rather than understanding the subject than that stifles the creativity kids have,<br />
The system there tried to tell them what to think and what their opinions on certain things ought to be, most kids in the subcontinent don&#8217;t have the vision to think outside the box. explains why most desis (in India/ Pakistan atleast) are closed minded</p>
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		<title>By: azeemaurangzeb</title>
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		<dc:creator>azeemaurangzeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 19:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think that pakistan education system is gud then any country. but not every pakistani .only rich people of his country .hear poor studen read in only locl school. i only say any rich man hear. if our prd zardari sons bil bhtto study  with me in my school.then any body guest who r the best me r he.but i think this is inposb bcoz he is son of our PM and now PRD SON and hear in pakistan pm son is next pm of us. bad luck of us we r not good the others. but i hope very soon the change the pak</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think that pakistan education system is gud then any country. but not every pakistani .only rich people of his country .hear poor studen read in only locl school. i only say any rich man hear. if our prd zardari sons bil bhtto study  with me in my school.then any body guest who r the best me r he.but i think this is inposb bcoz he is son of our PM and now PRD SON and hear in pakistan pm son is next pm of us. bad luck of us we r not good the others. but i hope very soon the change the pak</p>
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		<title>By: DEV KITTUR</title>
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		<dc:creator>DEV KITTUR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could get some knowledge about the Education in Pakistan. Having studied in India, I have no doubt that the education in India is certainly not so great that they could help Pakistan. 

Apart from this issue, I always feel that when it comes to teaching the history of independance , the curriculam in both the countries become too patriotic , to the extent that they create a hate in the minds of students about the&#039;enemy&#039; right from the childhood. At the end of the tenth standard,the student forgets about the British rule and becomes a strong opponent to the neighbouring country. In India, he becomes suporter of Nehru while Jinah becomes a villan . May be opposite in Pakistan. 
 
Why can&#039;t we teach history as just the incidents which happened due to the contemporary situations? May be this positive approch will bring about a much needed change in the relations between the two countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could get some knowledge about the Education in Pakistan. Having studied in India, I have no doubt that the education in India is certainly not so great that they could help Pakistan. </p>
<p>Apart from this issue, I always feel that when it comes to teaching the history of independance , the curriculam in both the countries become too patriotic , to the extent that they create a hate in the minds of students about the&#8217;enemy&#8217; right from the childhood. At the end of the tenth standard,the student forgets about the British rule and becomes a strong opponent to the neighbouring country. In India, he becomes suporter of Nehru while Jinah becomes a villan . May be opposite in Pakistan. </p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t we teach history as just the incidents which happened due to the contemporary situations? May be this positive approch will bring about a much needed change in the relations between the two countries.</p>
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		<title>By: O</title>
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		<dc:creator>O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the system in pakistan/ india are too obsessed with discipline 
and the rote learning system is terrible, its pretty retarded that the teachers hit u just because you&#039;re handwriting isnt neat, they expect boys to have a neat handwriting, turning them into faggots.  i went to school in pak till 3rd grade and i used to be hit for not having a neat handwriting (at least it was legible) and theres too much obsession with memorization of the topic rather than understanding it
im just so glad i came to america, the system here is a hell of alot better
it isnt perfect because but its still better than the system in pak/ india
people often say american system is underfunded, at least it gets some funds from gov&#039;t unlike the system in pak/ india</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the system in pakistan/ india are too obsessed with discipline<br />
and the rote learning system is terrible, its pretty retarded that the teachers hit u just because you&#8217;re handwriting isnt neat, they expect boys to have a neat handwriting, turning them into faggots.  i went to school in pak till 3rd grade and i used to be hit for not having a neat handwriting (at least it was legible) and theres too much obsession with memorization of the topic rather than understanding it<br />
im just so glad i came to america, the system here is a hell of alot better<br />
it isnt perfect because but its still better than the system in pak/ india<br />
people often say american system is underfunded, at least it gets some funds from gov&#8217;t unlike the system in pak/ india</p>
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		<title>By: Raj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is lot about  the  collective intellect of Society .Societies  with the  help of culture promote education system .
Present situation in Pakistan clearly demonstrates the failure of society  and its  culture  to help its  future generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is lot about  the  collective intellect of Society .Societies  with the  help of culture promote education system .<br />
Present situation in Pakistan clearly demonstrates the failure of society  and its  culture  to help its  future generation.</p>
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