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		<title>By: Mudassar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mudassar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 08:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear sir or madam !

asslam_o_alaikum !

mera name mudassar hussain hy aur muje daswen k leye parhai chahye aisaley sawab k leye ap ka bht shurya ho ga muje ap se bht umeed hy k ap muje parhai zaror send kren ge therefore meri umeed zaror pori kijye ga !is thirsday (jumyrat) 10-11-2011 ko daswan hy.........................

thanks alot.............................!

best regard..........................................!

 Mudassar Hussain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear sir or madam !</p>
<p>asslam_o_alaikum !</p>
<p>mera name mudassar hussain hy aur muje daswen k leye parhai chahye aisaley sawab k leye ap ka bht shurya ho ga muje ap se bht umeed hy k ap muje parhai zaror send kren ge therefore meri umeed zaror pori kijye ga !is thirsday (jumyrat) 10-11-2011 ko daswan hy&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>thanks alot&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..!</p>
<p>best regard&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;!</p>
<p> Mudassar Hussain.</p>
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		<title>By: Salman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 19:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Book Review: by Yoginder Sikand

Islam and Education—Conflict and Conformity in Pakistan ’s Madrassahs (Saleem H. Ali)
Publisher: Oxford University Press, Karachi

http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/book_review_islam_and_educationconflict_and_conformity_in_pakistan_s_madras/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Book Review: by Yoginder Sikand</p>
<p>Islam and Education—Conflict and Conformity in Pakistan ’s Madrassahs (Saleem H. Ali)<br />
Publisher: Oxford University Press, Karachi</p>
<p><a href="http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/book_review_islam_and_educationconflict_and_conformity_in_pakistan_s_madras/" rel="nofollow">http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/book_review_islam_and_educationconflict_and_conformity_in_pakistan_s_madras/</a></p>
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		<title>By: zubair</title>
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		<dc:creator>zubair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why the people send their children to madrasa because they cant effort the formal education
the donation which given to the government or NGOs they totally used by the employee salaries i-e in million and nothing was spend on the education. to uproot the madrasa system 
one have to stablished free good formal education with free dinning facilities then after 5 to 10 years  this madrasa system will be uprooted not with a 3 or 4 months, the main cause of terrorisum produce from the Madrasas and the IQRA school system formed in pakistan who are the main root of terrorisum who give fresh blood to the terrorist working 
i am runing an NGO with the name of ESAW (Educational Skill Development of women)
but lack of funding i fail to run this free education for the children</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why the people send their children to madrasa because they cant effort the formal education<br />
the donation which given to the government or NGOs they totally used by the employee salaries i-e in million and nothing was spend on the education. to uproot the madrasa system<br />
one have to stablished free good formal education with free dinning facilities then after 5 to 10 years  this madrasa system will be uprooted not with a 3 or 4 months, the main cause of terrorisum produce from the Madrasas and the IQRA school system formed in pakistan who are the main root of terrorisum who give fresh blood to the terrorist working<br />
i am runing an NGO with the name of ESAW (Educational Skill Development of women)<br />
but lack of funding i fail to run this free education for the children</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Willard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Willard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 04:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great post.  However, it may be time to update it since so much new information has come to light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post.  However, it may be time to update it since so much new information has come to light.</p>
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		<title>By: navid</title>
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		<dc:creator>navid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2006 05:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>strange 2 know it all abt madrisas.when other systems of schools with different mindsets/other missionary schools etc can work then why madrisas are so criticised. For all religions the seminaries/pesantrens are working almost every where ..its  critical to think abt it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>strange 2 know it all abt madrisas.when other systems of schools with different mindsets/other missionary schools etc can work then why madrisas are so criticised. For all religions the seminaries/pesantrens are working almost every where ..its  critical to think abt it</p>
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		<title>By: be</title>
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		<dc:creator>be</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting blog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting blog</p>
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		<title>By: shakir</title>
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		<dc:creator>shakir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thumbs up for writing a detailed blog on Madrasas. After living in Peshawar (Northern PK) for almost 5 yrs, i can safely conclude few things about the Madarsa situations:i.e:

1. Like the sepoy wrote: almost all the madrasas are filled with either, orphans, refugee kids, or childern from poorest families

2. Almost 80% of them preach nothing but JIHAD..Especially the one in Akora Khattak (45mins from Attock city)..is known as the Taleban Factory. Nearly all the graduates from these madrasas were ending up in Kabul with Talebans.

3. At the downfall of taleban regime, there were almost 20,000 missing pakistani , mostly youth and and from these madrasas.

4. Madrasas which are equipped with proper sllybus and computers are too expensive for the general public to afford, but thanks to Mess-a-raff new policies, there are now some good changes.

5.Also most of the Madrasas are/were nothing but good businesses and money laundering factories. Few of them were under ISI control for shipping fresh lots of &#039;mujahideen&#039; into kashmir and afghanistan. 

6.then there are these Madrases which are based on some specific sects and do nothing but sectorianism...diverting poeple from real virtues of Islam and pushing them into sect wars , like shia-sunni riots. 

But all this mentioned above do not potray the true concept and spirits of Madrasas which were based on the true intentions of spreading knowledge, from religion to sciences...some thousands years ago... 

P.S: But still many poeple thinks its appropriate to donate generous amounts to these madrasas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thumbs up for writing a detailed blog on Madrasas. After living in Peshawar (Northern PK) for almost 5 yrs, i can safely conclude few things about the Madarsa situations:i.e:</p>
<p>1. Like the sepoy wrote: almost all the madrasas are filled with either, orphans, refugee kids, or childern from poorest families</p>
<p>2. Almost 80% of them preach nothing but JIHAD..Especially the one in Akora Khattak (45mins from Attock city)..is known as the Taleban Factory. Nearly all the graduates from these madrasas were ending up in Kabul with Talebans.</p>
<p>3. At the downfall of taleban regime, there were almost 20,000 missing pakistani , mostly youth and and from these madrasas.</p>
<p>4. Madrasas which are equipped with proper sllybus and computers are too expensive for the general public to afford, but thanks to Mess-a-raff new policies, there are now some good changes.</p>
<p>5.Also most of the Madrasas are/were nothing but good businesses and money laundering factories. Few of them were under ISI control for shipping fresh lots of &#8216;mujahideen&#8217; into kashmir and afghanistan. </p>
<p>6.then there are these Madrases which are based on some specific sects and do nothing but sectorianism&#8230;diverting poeple from real virtues of Islam and pushing them into sect wars , like shia-sunni riots. </p>
<p>But all this mentioned above do not potray the true concept and spirits of Madrasas which were based on the true intentions of spreading knowledge, from religion to sciences&#8230;some thousands years ago&#8230; </p>
<p>P.S: But still many poeple thinks its appropriate to donate generous amounts to these madrasas!</p>
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		<title>By: s¯nee</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>de godt comment shakir!! 
Well,
The Madrasa situation is not so bad in Lahore and especially in Karachi. One is surprised to see some very &#039;uptodate&#039; Madrasas in Karachi, giving degrees in computer sciences along with Fiqa (Jurispurdism)/Islam. this trend is now coming to Lahore and Islamabad.

But the credit for this &#039;sectorianism&#039;/&#039;fanatic jihad concept&#039; in Madrasas, goes to one of the dictator in Pakistan, GENERAL ZIA UL HAQ!!! He was the one who used Islam as a tool to stabilize his dictatorship in the country and diverted ppl&#039;s attention to Jihad in afghanistan , in 1979 ; so much so that he cheated the nation in Dec.1984&#039;s referendum  , by saying : if u want ISLAM in the country , then vote for &#039;yes&#039; (me)..
long story,but we fell for it, and he literally destroyed us !! 

So basically ,it was more after 1970&#039;s (in PK)the Madrasas became a religo-political tool to gain supremacy in the society.. 

Even now, many political and religious figures are just famous/respected for their &#039;special&#039; association to one of those Madrasas!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>de godt comment shakir!!<br />
Well,<br />
The Madrasa situation is not so bad in Lahore and especially in Karachi. One is surprised to see some very &#8216;uptodate&#8217; Madrasas in Karachi, giving degrees in computer sciences along with Fiqa (Jurispurdism)/Islam. this trend is now coming to Lahore and Islamabad.</p>
<p>But the credit for this &#8216;sectorianism&#8217;/'fanatic jihad concept&#8217; in Madrasas, goes to one of the dictator in Pakistan, GENERAL ZIA UL HAQ!!! He was the one who used Islam as a tool to stabilize his dictatorship in the country and diverted ppl&#8217;s attention to Jihad in afghanistan , in 1979 ; so much so that he cheated the nation in Dec.1984&#8242;s referendum  , by saying : if u want ISLAM in the country , then vote for &#8216;yes&#8217; (me)..<br />
long story,but we fell for it, and he literally destroyed us !! </p>
<p>So basically ,it was more after 1970&#8242;s (in PK)the Madrasas became a religo-political tool to gain supremacy in the society.. </p>
<p>Even now, many political and religious figures are just famous/respected for their &#8216;special&#8217; association to one of those Madrasas!!</p>
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		<title>By: Thebit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thebit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is not with the madrassah themselves. The problem is with &#039;Islamic education&#039; which simply juxtaposes &#039;religious&#039; subjects with &#039;secular&#039; subjects. There is no coherency, no structure; and certainly no &#039;critical&#039; thought induced into students. I went to a Deobandi madrassah over here, run by austere Gujratis, set up and run in exactly the same fashion as in India. Apart from rote memorisation of Qur&#039;an (with little or no Arabic), some Urdu to read some Hanafi fiqh texts, I don&#039;t recall a single time we were taught anything!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is not with the madrassah themselves. The problem is with &#8216;Islamic education&#8217; which simply juxtaposes &#8216;religious&#8217; subjects with &#8216;secular&#8217; subjects. There is no coherency, no structure; and certainly no &#8216;critical&#8217; thought induced into students. I went to a Deobandi madrassah over here, run by austere Gujratis, set up and run in exactly the same fashion as in India. Apart from rote memorisation of Qur&#8217;an (with little or no Arabic), some Urdu to read some Hanafi fiqh texts, I don&#8217;t recall a single time we were taught anything!</p>
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		<title>By: Anjalli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anjalli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really appreciated your article on madarsas.
I work with a hyderabad based non-profit called the Naandi Foundation. www.naandi.org. We have several initiatives in education and are looking to work with madarsas in Bihar and M.P on expanding the range of subjects taught in madarsas.I&#039;m looking for more information on people working in this area in India and abroad. If you know about people, initiaves, research reports or articles that deal with issue, i&#039;d be grateful if you could pass on the info,

cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really appreciated your article on madarsas.<br />
I work with a hyderabad based non-profit called the Naandi Foundation. <a href="http://www.naandi.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.naandi.org</a>. We have several initiatives in education and are looking to work with madarsas in Bihar and M.P on expanding the range of subjects taught in madarsas.I&#8217;m looking for more information on people working in this area in India and abroad. If you know about people, initiaves, research reports or articles that deal with issue, i&#8217;d be grateful if you could pass on the info,</p>
<p>cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Byrraju Foundation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Byrraju Foundation</dc:creator>
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		<description>This is a great article on madarsas. Keep up the good work.</description>
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