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	<description>what is the vertiginous chapati saying to me?</description>
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		<title>By: Sania</title>
		<link>http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/homistan/djinnah.html/comment-page-1#comment-158361</link>
		<dc:creator>Sania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly all of u have baseless comments, nothing substantial. Now, when u want to talk about history u should read and do a research...BASTARD Sepoy, son of filthy bitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly all of u have baseless comments, nothing substantial. Now, when u want to talk about history u should read and do a research&#8230;BASTARD Sepoy, son of filthy bitch.</p>
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		<title>By: YLH</title>
		<link>http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/homistan/djinnah.html/comment-page-1#comment-151586</link>
		<dc:creator>YLH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 08:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Jinnah did not...  till the very end.

Neither did Iqbal.  In his last letter to Muslims of East Africa (which came after the said couplet you quote)  Iqbal asked them to pray for &quot;Muhammad Ali Jinnah and Mustapha Kemal Ataturk for these two men had still a lot to accomplish for Muslims&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Jinnah did not&#8230;  till the very end.</p>
<p>Neither did Iqbal.  In his last letter to Muslims of East Africa (which came after the said couplet you quote)  Iqbal asked them to pray for &#8220;Muhammad Ali Jinnah and Mustapha Kemal Ataturk for these two men had still a lot to accomplish for Muslims&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: al-Maturidi</title>
		<link>http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/homistan/djinnah.html/comment-page-1#comment-17882</link>
		<dc:creator>al-Maturidi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 11:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yasser, even Allama Iqbal admired &quot;Ataturk&quot;, however, he later rejected his ideas. This is what Iqbal wrote about him:

&quot;What is this Secular and Latin stratagem, that entangled you? The remedy for the weak is one: None is Supreme, but Him (the Almighty)&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yasser, even Allama Iqbal admired &#8220;Ataturk&#8221;, however, he later rejected his ideas. This is what Iqbal wrote about him:</p>
<p>&#8220;What is this Secular and Latin stratagem, that entangled you? The remedy for the weak is one: None is Supreme, but Him (the Almighty)&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: yasser</title>
		<link>http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/homistan/djinnah.html/comment-page-1#comment-17658</link>
		<dc:creator>yasser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 13:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article ...

Qalandar, Jinnah&#039;s admiration for Kemal Ataturk is no secret. in his press interview in 1938 Jinnah described Kemal Ataturk as the greatest Musalman of the modern age and Turkey an example for all Muslims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article &#8230;</p>
<p>Qalandar, Jinnah&#8217;s admiration for Kemal Ataturk is no secret. in his press interview in 1938 Jinnah described Kemal Ataturk as the greatest Musalman of the modern age and Turkey an example for all Muslims.</p>
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		<title>By: Frog in a Well - The China History Group Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/homistan/djinnah.html/comment-page-1#comment-9781</link>
		<dc:creator>Frog in a Well - The China History Group Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 04:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in some cases the place (or nation) can be re-written to fit you. Chapati Mystery has problems with Jinnah According to Asia Cable, Thailand has been more fortunate with its national heroes. Of course the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in some cases the place (or nation) can be re-written to fit you. Chapati Mystery has problems with Jinnah According to Asia Cable, Thailand has been more fortunate with its national heroes. Of course the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Early Modern Notes &#187; History Carnival 50</title>
		<link>http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/homistan/djinnah.html/comment-page-1#comment-9370</link>
		<dc:creator>Early Modern Notes &#187; History Carnival 50</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] traces the shifting historiography of Quaid-e Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah. KM Lawson considers the run-up to the 1948 election in southern Korea in Getting out the Vote. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] traces the shifting historiography of Quaid-e Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah. KM Lawson considers the run-up to the 1948 election in southern Korea in Getting out the Vote. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: hoopoe</title>
		<link>http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/homistan/djinnah.html/comment-page-1#comment-8622</link>
		<dc:creator>hoopoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 05:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know much about QAMAJ, except for the fact that he came up with a lot of canted sayings. He always struck me as a very strange leader, especially in the context of anti-colonial leaders. He seemed like a bona fide &quot;brown sahib&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know much about QAMAJ, except for the fact that he came up with a lot of canted sayings. He always struck me as a very strange leader, especially in the context of anti-colonial leaders. He seemed like a bona fide &#8220;brown sahib&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pakistan: On Jinnah</title>
		<link>http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/homistan/djinnah.html/comment-page-1#comment-7828</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pakistan: On Jinnah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 08:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] chapati mystery on the perception of Jinnah in the academic and state circles through the years. &#8220;Since The General’s ascension, the “Heroes of Pakistan” focus has shifted towards the more brazenly militant ones and the earlier generation’s focus on Jinnah and Iqbal has softened considerably. Just recently, the religious party Jamaat Ulama-i Islam [JUI] decided that Jinnah was no freedom fighter, because “he did nothing for Islam and Pakistan, made no sacrifice and never went to jail”. Such a public stance would have been un-heard of, at any previous time.&#8221;    Neha Viswanathan [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] chapati mystery on the perception of Jinnah in the academic and state circles through the years. &#8220;Since The General’s ascension, the “Heroes of Pakistan” focus has shifted towards the more brazenly militant ones and the earlier generation’s focus on Jinnah and Iqbal has softened considerably. Just recently, the religious party Jamaat Ulama-i Islam [JUI] decided that Jinnah was no freedom fighter, because “he did nothing for Islam and Pakistan, made no sacrifice and never went to jail”. Such a public stance would have been un-heard of, at any previous time.&#8221;    Neha Viswanathan [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sepoy</title>
		<link>http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/homistan/djinnah.html/comment-page-1#comment-7798</link>
		<dc:creator>sepoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 04:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Quaid-e Azam nay farmiya, tu chal tey main aiya&quot;

literally translated:
&quot;Quaid-e Azam decreed: you go, and I will come&quot;

colloquially: &quot;he says, go on and start without me and I will be right behind you&quot; [though he won&#039;t show up because Jinnah is a lazy bastard]

Missing in the translation is the rhyme - farmiya/aiya - and the pun - jaa&#039;na/aa&#039;na - of the Punjabi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Quaid-e Azam nay farmiya, tu chal tey main aiya&#8221;</p>
<p>literally translated:<br />
&#8220;Quaid-e Azam decreed: you go, and I will come&#8221;</p>
<p>colloquially: &#8220;he says, go on and start without me and I will be right behind you&#8221; [though he won't show up because Jinnah is a lazy bastard]</p>
<p>Missing in the translation is the rhyme &#8211; farmiya/aiya &#8211; and the pun &#8211; jaa&#8217;na/aa&#8217;na &#8211; of the Punjabi</p>
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		<title>By: e</title>
		<link>http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/homistan/djinnah.html/comment-page-1#comment-7768</link>
		<dc:creator>e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 00:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>request a translation of your uncle&#039;s joke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>request a translation of your uncle&#8217;s joke</p>
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		<title>By: Qalandar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Qalandar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting write-up sepoy.  One other Jinnah that appears to have some currency in Pakistan (obviously based on this &quot;outsider&#039;s&quot; anecdotal experience, so extra-large doses of salt might be in order) is &quot;Musharraf&#039;s Jinnah&quot;, i.e. the Jinnah who mysteriously appears to have wanted a Pakistan no different than the one Musharraf routinely speaks of wanting to birth.  This of course taps into the Ataturk-fetish of all-too-many in Pakistan, and it seems to me that more than a few of Pakistan&#039;s well-heeled urban elites appear to be buying what Musharraf is selling, a creeping intellectual authoritarianism and a fantasy that if the country were &quot;de-mullahized&quot; and relevant hordes appropriately &quot;disciplined&quot; -- the way Ataturk/Jinnah/whoever would have wanted -- then all would be well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting write-up sepoy.  One other Jinnah that appears to have some currency in Pakistan (obviously based on this &#8220;outsider&#8217;s&#8221; anecdotal experience, so extra-large doses of salt might be in order) is &#8220;Musharraf&#8217;s Jinnah&#8221;, i.e. the Jinnah who mysteriously appears to have wanted a Pakistan no different than the one Musharraf routinely speaks of wanting to birth.  This of course taps into the Ataturk-fetish of all-too-many in Pakistan, and it seems to me that more than a few of Pakistan&#8217;s well-heeled urban elites appear to be buying what Musharraf is selling, a creeping intellectual authoritarianism and a fantasy that if the country were &#8220;de-mullahized&#8221; and relevant hordes appropriately &#8220;disciplined&#8221; &#8212; the way Ataturk/Jinnah/whoever would have wanted &#8212; then all would be well.</p>
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		<title>By: AG</title>
		<link>http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/homistan/djinnah.html/comment-page-1#comment-7724</link>
		<dc:creator>AG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One whisper that I overheard was along the lines: it was Jinnah that decided against Shari&#039;a and settled for the mortals folly called the &quot;constitution.&quot; If it weren&#039;t for him, Pakistan would have been heaven on earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One whisper that I overheard was along the lines: it was Jinnah that decided against Shari&#8217;a and settled for the mortals folly called the &#8220;constitution.&#8221; If it weren&#8217;t for him, Pakistan would have been heaven on earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Dresner</title>
		<link>http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/homistan/djinnah.html/comment-page-1#comment-7681</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Dresner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice catch, and save!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice catch, and save!</p>
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